Save your money use ECA Stack
- 05-17-2009, 12:58 AM
is any one having any problems with guafeneisin as far as being too much of a muscle relaxant or any other noticed problems?
- 05-17-2009, 02:07 AM
- 05-17-2009, 02:07 AM
What are some ways to to prevent bad experiences with this stack? I've seen in this thread it is recomended to drink plenty of water but is their anything else I should be taking or doing with this or anything I should be avoiding ? Thanks
05-17-2009, 09:28 AM
I'm not in college and have taken other prescription drugs on various occasions since the age of 16....not so much anymore though! And you thinking it's wrong is a matter of opinion - some prescriptions are universal in that pretty much anyone can take them. But do realize that I also know that some aren't and can hurt you which is why i'm here doing my homework. I'm also starting to think sudogest isn't even a prescription drug it could just be an OTC.
05-17-2009, 06:27 PM
I gave you an answer.
if you want me to break it down for you pe works 1/3 as good as ephedra thats about 33 %.
05-18-2009, 03:28 AM
does any one know if 5-htp is okay to take with eca stack?
Im pretty sure it is , just in case though. 5-htp=serotonin, ephredine=norephedrine or some chemical named like this
5-htp is dosed before sleep
05-18-2009, 05:54 AM
05-19-2009, 01:55 AM
i just ended mine, i missed a couple doses and decided to just stop. so i went from 100mg hcl to 0 overnight, i feel fine.
if u want to be cautious maybe just spend the last week tapering down one dose every few days until u get to none. im not sure a whole week is necessary for each
05-19-2009, 09:34 AM
05-22-2009, 04:02 PM
so i was a bit annoyed when the ax rep posted in her about slim xtreme but HOLY ****. i just tried the sample i got after taking a 5 day break from eca. it feels soooo alike its ridiculous.
it feels just like an eca/ecy dose only without the sweating (but without the euphoria/ high as well). im not sure about the actual results being as its only 1 day but it definitely provides the energy and appetite suppression. (its odd, eca barely suppressed my appetite past day 2, i personally dont like that aspect). im off the walls right now, i just did 35 mins cardio an hour ago and im already looking for things to do.
i dont think its on par with eca but it might be a good way to cycle off/ use in between cycles. its about 15 bucks more than an eca stack i think but it avoids the guafeineisn issues. im finishing up 2 more weeks of eca and stopping for a bit but in a few months i might consider it if the price drops. just a thought.
05-22-2009, 04:50 PM
AdamsOriginally Posted by TruelyHuge
The Historic PES Legend
05-22-2009, 05:00 PM
i was curious about the addition of aspirin being muscle wasting due to decreased inflammation and whatnot, but i guess its irrelevant since it actually promotes an increase in muscle mass? thats pretty ideal.
i never meant that slim xtreme was as effective as eca, just that it felt like it resembled it somehow. i mean i cant judge having only taken one days dose, but still. looks like eca is in fact unbeatable. kinda bad that its soo addicting. i love the feeling of being on it. =(
05-22-2009, 05:41 PM
05-23-2009, 12:01 AM
Only thing that beat eca was nor-epedrine hci.I posted the patent on the eca stack,it has refrences in the begging to over 400 pages worth of testing done on it.some of those books cost like 200 bucks tho.
they also tested yohimbe also and didnt use it.I think it has something to do with blood sugar because when i take yohimbe it kicks me right out of ketosis.
if you want a bigger stim affect from eca take it with crape fruit juice.
Eca has hundreds of doctors and research done on it.
If this new stim fat burner is as good as they say,they should get the trials and testing done and patent the next best fat burner.
05-23-2009, 01:24 AM
I've tried most fat-burners out there..again, the feeling and results I got from ECA/ECY in just 3 1/2-4 weeks is by far better than any fat-burner
05-23-2009, 06:35 PM
I've only used the E/C/Y combo for about a week but I agree with KG. Honestly better results than even Clen for me.
05-25-2009, 01:12 AM
05-25-2009, 12:47 PM
05-25-2009, 04:05 PM
05-25-2009, 05:23 PM
Just wanted you all to know that CVS does carry both primatene and bronkaid if it hasn't been mentioned already. I went there to pick some up, and only saw primatene inserts on the shelf (you have to buy them from the pharmacy). When the pharmacist was ringing me up I saw boxes of bronkaid, and ended up getting two boxes of those instead.
05-25-2009, 05:58 PM
05-25-2009, 09:19 PM
05-26-2009, 01:05 AM
05-26-2009, 02:37 AM
i get primatene tablets at walmart for less than 9 bucks for 60. it's ephedrine HCL 12.5 mgs. The pharmacist has it, they ask for ID as well. No big deal.. i buy two at a time.
05-26-2009, 12:21 PM
I just finished reading all 9 pages of this thread and I have some questions.
A little background... I'm female, 5'4", 205ish. I had lapband surgery in January and I've lost 41 lbs (25 of which came off two weeks pre surgery and the first week post surgery... since then I've lost 17lbs in 17 weeks) but due to two health issues that cause weight gain and make weight loss nearly impossible (poly cystic ovaries and an underactive thyroid) my loss has been super slow and I'm OVER IT. I work out almost every day, 4-5 days a week cardio and mild strength training 1-2x a week plus 45 minutes of yoga 1-2x a week for my own sanity. I eat about 1200 cals a day. Hunger is NOT an issue for me. I've looked at this from all angles and I really need something that's going to boost my metabolism and get my body burning fat and cals the way it should. Trust me on this- I work my a$$ off and I'm struggling to lose 1 lousy pound a week.
I have some questions about taking an ECA stack. I used to take ephedrine hci/guaifensen (or however you spell it) for energy. I'm familiar with how my body responds to it. I love it. I've been trying to lose weight without stimulants, supplements, etc. (well, aside from whey and vitamins... but you know what I mean). I'm ready to try something because I'm sick of working my butt off with little results.
1) I read time and time again to experiment with dosages... but what's a good starting point for A and C? I know where to start with the E because I've taken it before and know what to expect. As I stated before, I'm 5'4" 205 female.
2) This probably sounds like a stupid question... but what form do you buy caffeine? Can you just go to GNC and get plain ole caffeine tablets? I've never had to look for just caffeine.
3) Can you crush any of these pills? Ephedrine is small enough that I could split it in half, and I believe asprin is small enough to take whole (depending on the dose, not sure), but if the caffeine is too big for me to swallow (I can't take big pills), can I crush it?
Thanks so much for your help!!
ETA- I know this will vary from person to person, but what kind of results can I expect? I'm taking a cruise in 3 months and I was really hoping to have gotten a lot farther than my current outlook of high 180s, low 190s. My losses have averaged 1lb a week, sometimes less than that. If I can get 2-3lbs a week off I'd be friggin extatic. I work my a$$ off, I wish my body would cooperate!!!
05-26-2009, 12:50 PM
05-26-2009, 01:02 PM
05-26-2009, 01:02 PM
Caffeine you can get in just tablets, here on NP 5.99 for 100 tabs from ProLab or same price 90 tabs from Primaforce. I'm sure GNC sells the same thing just add a 3 to 4 bucks to that price. They are about the same size as an ephedrine tab.
The ideal ratio of ECA is 10 to 1 caffeine to ephedrine. 10 mg of caffeine to 1 mg of ephedrine. 200 mg of caffeine to 20 mg of ephedrine. It doesn't have to be so precise, but thats the ideal ratio. The asprin dosage for 200mg/20mg should be in the 80mg range which is 1/4 an aspirin usually. Half an aspirin is fine.
I don't think there is really a need to crush these pills, none of them are really horse like pills.
But I always suggest ramping up your dosage when starting off with eca to help curb any side effects that may become present. Like I wouldn't jump into 200mg/20mg 2 to 3 times a day right off the bat. Maybe 100mg/10mg once a day for 2 days, then bump it up to twice a day for a few days, then bump it to 200mg/20mg once 100mg/10mg once for a few days, then 200mg/20mg twice a day for a few days etc.
05-26-2009, 01:09 PM
05-26-2009, 01:09 PM
since taking this eca stack my throat has gotten really dry and voice real harsh and im always coughing and spitting up mucus, i assume its cuz of the guaifessian
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