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- 05-14-2009, 04:59 PM
why does yohimbine cause anxiety
"These findings indicate that: (1) noradrenergic hyperactivity may be a factor in the production of some anxiety states;"Look at all these little kids takin' care of the music biz don't their bus'ness take good care of me...
- 05-14-2009, 05:18 PM
- 05-14-2009, 05:48 PM
if a person is stimulant sensative start off at 1-2 per day and work up. I think 4 a day is the max dose just to be on the safe side.
Thats just me though my body always has side effects when I go too high in stimulants or Im just not use to the sides and dont want to get used to them. My body works lower dosing on stimulants. if you can handle them comfortabally without any sleep lose etc go for it I personally love my sleep.Follow me on facebook, twitter and youtube, where I share information and videos to help you achieve your physique goals, John Smeton Ftness
05-14-2009, 05:56 PM
Well..started my first EC stack today.
Honestly was nervous and still a bit nervous about it, lol. I'm quite healthy, but...still the side effects and risk's associated with it kinda make me un-easy.
25mg E (Bronkaid) 200mg C + 500mg of Green Tea Extract.
Thus far not terrible, pretty much what I expected I guess. Dry mouth, bit of jitters like I just slammed an espresso shot. Cleared me up a bit as far as breathing.
Will keep it at the one dose per day until next week sometime. I don't anticipate using more than 2 per day due to my fears + I honestly don't think anymore is all that big of a thing. I have read enough to assume the 2 per will be sufficient.
05-14-2009, 06:25 PM
05-14-2009, 06:38 PM
05-14-2009, 06:48 PM
05-14-2009, 06:57 PM
caffeine would be the same way. As for the asprin I would alternate that each day with GTE. I think that's how i'm going to run it when I give it a shot.
05-14-2009, 07:59 PM
05-14-2009, 09:38 PM
05-14-2009, 10:27 PM
05-14-2009, 11:45 PM
05-15-2009, 12:35 AM
05-15-2009, 01:05 AM
ive been taking ecy for a couple weeks now, ive been ramping the doses up and i still dont really feel any negative effects. what exactly would it be? just anxiety and whatnot, i feel great on ecy. eca seems a little stronger but it could just be cuz i was used to the yohimbine when i switched. i just dont like the idea of taking too much asprin, i feel like it would inhibit muscle growth somehow
05-15-2009, 06:28 AM
Look at all these little kids takin' care of the music biz don't their bus'ness take good care of me...
05-15-2009, 07:57 AM
Dont give up on the yohimbe guys,you can always run the topical and get the same results with little to no sides.I cant take gte, it makes me want to throw up and if I add yohimbe on top I feel like a zombe.
You can also get away with an asprin every other day,the stuff stays in you for a while.
Also another not,when possible use ephedrine hci,its alot more potant and I only take one dose a day and it keeps me buzzed for almost 8 hours.
05-15-2009, 09:52 AM
I know you are not supposed to drink alcohol with the E/C stack. But tonight I'm planning on going out with friends. If I took a dose at 7:30 AM will I be fine if I will not be drinking until 7:00 or later PM tonight?
Is all that happens is an intensified effect to the drinking? Or is it something worse to combine the stack and drinking?
05-15-2009, 09:54 AM
The Historic PES Legend
05-15-2009, 10:02 AM
05-15-2009, 10:16 AM
05-15-2009, 10:18 AM
I take my Aspirin in the morning, with my first dose, MAYBE another one with an evening dose...the Y is causing me too much anxiety, Ill go back in a week or two
05-15-2009, 10:31 AM
Okay So I've read through this whole thread twice now, and been looking at it for the past couple of days as well. let me get this right. if I take e/y/gte/ it works better than e/c/a because the e/y compliment each other to target different types of receptors to help with my VAT fat. and the gte will provide prolonged benefits. is this correct? also I have not used any of these before so I would start out at e @ 10mg 2xday, y@.1xbw, and gte at what?
also would anything of this have a negative reaction with USPLABS Jacked because I take two to three scoops on workout days, and recreate? which would add caffiene. or should I just drop the recreate?
Further more, I work out every day mon-fri weights and intense cardio; I'm on a ckd diet, and I also have a very active job. Should I only take the e once a day for now? And should I take this stack before or after my workouts. the y I have read in here I should take before...but what about the e/gte?
My gas station sells ephedra, and just ephedra for like 15 box for 25 10mg pills, wouldn't that be better than taking broncaid so I don't have the guistifin( cough stuff...however it's spelled)?
05-15-2009, 11:09 AM
05-15-2009, 11:24 AM
is there anything else besides broncaid? I really try to stay away from the cough meds? I have searched online, and through this thread but there is really nothing about just ephedra...
05-15-2009, 11:29 AM
05-15-2009, 11:56 AM
-Ive cut back on Jack3d to only 1 1/2 scoops pre WO
-as when to take the separate doses, 4-5 hours apart, I structure my timing on my day, so it varies
-I would stop Recreate, but thats just me...do what you want
-you grow a tolerance to only one E a day, so you'll have to increase it to two, just be sure your drinking alot of H2O and not alot of other forms of caffeine (coffee, energy drinks, soda)
-Bronkaid is a cough/respiratory medicine, to the best of my understanding its the best way to get E today, just dont go to extremes with how many you take
05-15-2009, 12:22 PM
What about a dose of gte... I am thinking about buying nutra planets bulk gte. do you think that a eygte stack sounds good? should I add/take away anything?
05-15-2009, 12:27 PM
05-15-2009, 12:30 PM
Why are people banking on GTE in the ECA stack? It doesn't replace the E, the C, or the A. It has certain properties as aspirin, but does not reproduce the prostaglandin activity, nor the cAMP activity. GTE has very little caffeine, so why are people wanting GTE instead of something in the ECA stack?
GTE is great, don't get me wrong, but not in the ECA stack.
The Historic PES Legend
05-15-2009, 12:47 PM
05-15-2009, 12:52 PM
05-15-2009, 01:09 PM
Why is everyone banking on ECA?
05-15-2009, 01:16 PM
05-15-2009, 01:21 PM
I was being sarcastic.
Cardio and diet work too
05-15-2009, 01:29 PM
05-15-2009, 01:45 PM
thats alot of questions haha
-i think the consensus so far is to stick to eca (i liked the ecy too but i guess it has more sides)
- avoid the jacked if possible or at least lower the dose. the geranium extract in it is pretty strong, ive gotten too overstimulated from that with eca and it affected my lift. now i just take e/y with jacked and skip the c for my pwo dose.
- if ur just taking it once a day the early morning dose might be best, or preworkout if u dont lift too late at night
- and u can always get primatene (or the walgreens knockoff brand) which is ephedrine hcl but as far as i know they all have guafeneisin in it
05-15-2009, 03:40 PM
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05-15-2009, 06:14 PM
05-16-2009, 08:14 PM
So my roommate was about to toss out a bottle of SudoGest (a prescription nasal decongestant). I grabbed it from him and took a look at the ingredients....
60 mg pseudoephedrine hydrochloride (per pill)
Worth using in a ECA or should I trash it? If it is worth using how would I dose it? Hoping to get one of the more knowledgable gents like B5150 in on this..thanks!
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