Save your money use ECA Stack
- 05-05-2009, 01:26 PM
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05-05-2009, 02:51 PM
Ive decided not to take a NO product, due to the high amounts of stims, mainly caffeine, but I am taking AEX by VPX, it solely composed of Arginine, Cnidium Monnier, L-Nor Valine, Folic Acid
05-05-2009, 05:51 PM
ive been on ecy for a couple weeks. ive also been taking jacked. at first i would drop the caffeine and just do e and y with a scoop but i think i built up a tolerance quick. im taking ecy 4 times a day with a normal dose of no2 and not noticing much. id say if u lower ur caffeine intake i dont see it as much of a problem. or just skip one dose of eca altogether and use ur no2.
05-05-2009, 05:52 PM
if ur really worried maybe just take some arganine aakg or something with bcaas.on second look it seems like what ur taking is essentially that.
05-05-2009, 10:36 PM
05-05-2009, 11:02 PM
While using ECY at quite high doses I'd not mess with any sort of stims, but I always threw my daily Neovar in.
So don't know, I don't think you need the stim out of an NO, but you could certainly use a nice creatine product.
05-06-2009, 12:02 AM
im down to about 190, im eating an average of 2700 cals a day. (doing low intensity cardio every morning, lifting 5 times a week w/ hiit on non lift days). i was implementing a form of carb cycling but ive gotten a bit less strict with it. on my off days i keep it at about 50g carbs, high days 250-300 (1-2 a week) and the rest at about 100-150 carbs. Im aiming for higher protein now since i started losing size so about 300-350g. rest is fats.
i primarily just eat fruits for carbs, with occasional oats/grain bread. berries seem to be a wonder for me since they fill me up and taste delicious with so little carb content. i blend them into all my shakes with sugarfree soymilk and peanut butter and protein powder. i found this to be a good way of staying full/ quickly eating healthy. aside from that i stick to beef/chicken/turkey with occasional fish. vegetables (primarily celery and spinach and onions) and tons of almonds. let me know if u need any more specifics, i usually just grill whatever meat i can find with some vegetables and fruit in the morning/pre/postworkout.
im thinking im stalling just because ive been cutting for so long and i might just need a break. i love having abs again though. also my tolerance to stims is beginning to scare me. i can sleep pretty soon after taking 25mg ephedra, 10mg yohimbine and 200 caffine whereas before id be up all night. i love the effects of ephedra though even if i dont notice the fatburning as much.
05-06-2009, 12:06 AM
05-06-2009, 12:57 AM
Any opinions on this product?
Mahuang (10% extract for 10mg of ephedra alkaloids) 100mg
Kola Nut 20mg
Caffeine USP 200mg
Ginger Root 100mg
Chromium Picolinate 1mg
Pantothenic Acid 200mg
Yohimbine HCl 6mg
05-06-2009, 01:10 AM
05-06-2009, 10:36 AM
ECA stack pre workout yes.
For me it worked best at 30mins prior.
I also cycle for 2 weeks on and 2 off. As when i was on a constant dose of 30mg, after maybe 5 weeks, i needed 50mg and then that wasent cutting it, so cycling helped me a great deal.
05-06-2009, 03:04 PM
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05-06-2009, 06:56 PM
As for your question, I think you've answered it, implicitly. If the other fatburners were as strong as ephedra, they would be banned. Why don't people buy ECA? Probably because it is banned. For example, to get it in my state, you are limited to so many mg's per month. When you purchase, you must shown identification, and sign a waiver. This waiver is then sent to the DEA for documentation. If you go over your limit, you get a visitor. Remember, this compound is also used to make illegal drugs.
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