Save your money use ECA Stack
- 05-05-2009, 09:36 PM
- 05-05-2009, 10:02 PM
While using ECY at quite high doses I'd not mess with any sort of stims, but I always threw my daily Neovar in.
So don't know, I don't think you need the stim out of an NO, but you could certainly use a nice creatine product.
- 05-05-2009, 11:02 PM
im down to about 190, im eating an average of 2700 cals a day. (doing low intensity cardio every morning, lifting 5 times a week w/ hiit on non lift days). i was implementing a form of carb cycling but ive gotten a bit less strict with it. on my off days i keep it at about 50g carbs, high days 250-300 (1-2 a week) and the rest at about 100-150 carbs. Im aiming for higher protein now since i started losing size so about 300-350g. rest is fats.
i primarily just eat fruits for carbs, with occasional oats/grain bread. berries seem to be a wonder for me since they fill me up and taste delicious with so little carb content. i blend them into all my shakes with sugarfree soymilk and peanut butter and protein powder. i found this to be a good way of staying full/ quickly eating healthy. aside from that i stick to beef/chicken/turkey with occasional fish. vegetables (primarily celery and spinach and onions) and tons of almonds. let me know if u need any more specifics, i usually just grill whatever meat i can find with some vegetables and fruit in the morning/pre/postworkout.
im thinking im stalling just because ive been cutting for so long and i might just need a break. i love having abs again though. also my tolerance to stims is beginning to scare me. i can sleep pretty soon after taking 25mg ephedra, 10mg yohimbine and 200 caffine whereas before id be up all night. i love the effects of ephedra though even if i dont notice the fatburning as much.
05-05-2009, 11:06 PM
05-05-2009, 11:57 PM
Any opinions on this product?
Mahuang (10% extract for 10mg of ephedra alkaloids) 100mg
Kola Nut 20mg
Caffeine USP 200mg
Ginger Root 100mg
Chromium Picolinate 1mg
Pantothenic Acid 200mg
Yohimbine HCl 6mg
05-06-2009, 12:10 AM
would i take an eca stack before working out?
05-06-2009, 09:36 AM
ECA stack pre workout yes.
For me it worked best at 30mins prior.
I also cycle for 2 weeks on and 2 off. As when i was on a constant dose of 30mg, after maybe 5 weeks, i needed 50mg and then that wasent cutting it, so cycling helped me a great deal.
05-06-2009, 02:04 PM
05-06-2009, 02:05 PM
05-06-2009, 05:07 PM
eca or clen never gave me the shakes.. and i ran clen up to 200
05-06-2009, 05:30 PM
05-06-2009, 05:56 PM
As for your question, I think you've answered it, implicitly. If the other fatburners were as strong as ephedra, they would be banned. Why don't people buy ECA? Probably because it is banned. For example, to get it in my state, you are limited to so many mg's per month. When you purchase, you must shown identification, and sign a waiver. This waiver is then sent to the DEA for documentation. If you go over your limit, you get a visitor. Remember, this compound is also used to make illegal drugs.
05-07-2009, 09:14 AM
05-07-2009, 09:25 AM
Ive never understood from the start why we would even compare ECA/ECY to Clen lol
05-07-2009, 09:43 AM
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05-08-2009, 09:06 AM
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05-08-2009, 09:08 AM
05-08-2009, 09:18 AM
lol...gotta love those good ole' abbreviations
05-08-2009, 09:29 AM
I have a dumb question. Ive been trying to figure out my dosage for Y. I weigh 220-225lbs and one cap is 2.5mg of Y....so what should my daily total be to take?
05-08-2009, 01:01 PM
ive also read that u should start with just ec for a week or so and then add in the y after to get better results. i started off with ec and y and the effects diminished a bit.
05-09-2009, 11:30 AM
05-09-2009, 12:06 PM
Think about it.
(1) By this point, everyone and their brother has "heard" something about ephedra. It's somewhat of a taboo, associated with nasty cardiovascular effects.
(2) 1 capsule of SX works (for most) 12+ hours strong. Ephedrine gives you a nice, debilatating crash after about 6-8 hours. Furthermore, users get heavy withdrawal periods when discontinuing, during which, they usually gain the weight back; whereas, (from my experimentations) you can skip a day of SX, and never miss a beat.
(3) As Tim alluded to, our design team tries to take the users health into consideration. From a business model perspective, it is hard to sell supplements to dead people, so we try not to deliver results so good that they're to die for, but good enough to keep on living. The profiles in SX and LeanFX are designed not only to help you down the pounds, but also provide some nice general health benefits as well.
05-09-2009, 12:28 PM
One guy can take 200mcg of clen and be fine, another guy will take it and wind up in the hospital.
05-09-2009, 02:12 PM
Sorry if this is a stupid question but where the heck do you get E from?
I did ECA ages ago when Ripped Fuel had ephedrine in it but haven't used ephedrine since it was banned.
Also, haven't we learned that any kind of anti-inflammatory like aspirin impairs muscle growth? Or do people doing ECA not care about that so long as they are cutting?
05-09-2009, 04:38 PM
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05-09-2009, 05:28 PM
05-09-2009, 06:19 PM
I got a question regarding the EC stack. Do you necessarily need the caffeine or is it just to help aid in fatloss? Also, has anyone ran EC at half doses instead of the full doses.
05-09-2009, 07:17 PM
05-09-2009, 07:18 PM
05-09-2009, 07:25 PM
When you consider VAT and SAT, Alpha and Beta receptors as well as cortisol.
ECA will fail you eventually.
Advanced Fat Loss Discussion (alpha/beta receptors)
05-09-2009, 11:03 PM
anyone have a link to get ec i'll get the a myself
05-11-2009, 09:33 PM
guys add aspirin every other day,it was used in the original eca for a reason and is has a patent on it.
There is scientific testing done on it,It keeps the body from stopping the norephrine down regulation.
add yohimbe to block the bad receptors if you can handle the stim.Here is a paste of an old write up.
Ephedrine enhances the release of the hormone norepinephrine in the body, and also binds to the same receptors as that hormone, causing excess calories to be converted to heat instead of being stored as fat. It also raises blood pressure. Epinephrine and norepinephrine are also known as adrenaline and noradrenaline. Ephedrine thus acts to stimulate an "adrenaline rush".
Interactions with caffeine and aspirin can increase the effects of ephedrine. Norepinephrine works in part by increasing the levels of cyclic AMP in cells. Caffeine inhibits the enzyme that breaks down cyclic AMP. Together, ephedrine makes more cyclic AMP, and caffeine prevents it from breaking down. Aspirin inhibits the receptors that turn off release of norepinephrine. So ephedrine releases norepinephrine, and aspirin prevents the release from being turned off.
Ephedrine by itself has been shown to be ineffective as a weight loss treatment. Ephedrine combined with either caffeine or aspirin was effective. The effect appears to be caused by a reduction in appetite, and preventing the metabolic rate decrease usually associated with a reduced calorie diet.
05-11-2009, 11:40 PM
Green Tea Extract (ECGC) will provide similar benefits as it is a COMT inhibitor with the added benefit of being a potent anti-oxidant.
Take Green Tea Extract (ECGC) and you don't need the caffeine or the aspirin.
TEA-GCG™ (Green Tea Caps) (100 caps)
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