Save your money use ECA Stack
04-23-2009 12:40 AM
I personally like to stay on a stimulant and just finish it out verses on and off besides of the sides coming off.
Originally Posted by KgTomCat
and dosing is very individual those with a low tolerance for stimulates have to work there way up letting their body get used to the new stimulant while those with a higher tolerance can start moderate right offf the bat. also take into account bodyweight and work works best for you.
04-23-2009 06:37 AM
Im reading up on it also Ive found out that E&C work well, so may not run the Y, or I could just due Y&C...I dont want to die from the E lol. or I could just take a fat-burner and throw in some extra C or Y
04-23-2009 08:33 AM
Isn't pseudoephedrine hci the same or similar? I've used it before and seems to work, although I've never used ephedrine or norephedrine.
I've used the CVS brand pseudoephedrine hci - 120mg tabs:
* 1/3 - 1/4 tab, about 30mg - 40mg pseudoephedrine hci
* 81mg aspirin
* 100mg - 200mg caffeine
Seems to work; body temperature goes up, breating and heart rate seems to increase, and body fat does come off, but exercise and diet have to be in line as well. The one time I used this consistently was during the winter while on a pseudo-V diet: I took the recipe above, usually exercised first thing in the morning on empty, and followed a pseudo-V diet. Also, I took the recipe above first thing in the morning before exercise and sometimes around noon - if I take it any later I have trouble sleeping at night.
However, I don't like taking stimulants or at least not for long. I've found that TTA works pretty well, especially if you also use sesamin and consume fish, olive, flax, or any other healthy fat.
04-27-2009 09:33 AM
Im on day 3 of my EC stack...not really dosing Y, so far Im loving it! Im thinking about taking Redline (pills, not the drink) Pre-WO. what does anyone think about that? The ingredients don't seem to strong, a bunch of stuff, but its only 1085mg or something...
04-27-2009 09:36 AM
Proprietary Blend: (Caffeine Citrate, Caffeine Anhydrous, Evoburn Pure Evodiamine, Octapomine, Guggulsterone E & Z, Yerbe Mate, Green Tea, Synephrine, cAMP (adenosine cyclic 3',5'-monophosphate), Vinpocetine, Yohimbine HCL) 910 mg
04-28-2009 07:08 AM
A friend of mine has used Redline before and likes it, he said it was pretty strong.
04-28-2009 07:27 AM
i have used it before and also like it, i am curious about taking the E&C in the am then pre WO taking Redline
Originally Posted by silverSurfer
04-28-2009 10:20 AM
Glad you're liking it mate, just increase your dosages slowly and you should stay safe.
04-28-2009 11:16 AM
I was wondering if recreate would work for ephedrine part?
04-28-2009 11:48 AM
of course! its hard not to though, I love the 'high' I get from E lol. I'm just hoping I can have results like Ive read about from others
Originally Posted by UKStrength
04-28-2009 01:00 PM
I'd say no as it doesn't have any ephedrine in it... It's a fat loss sup with other approaches.
Originally Posted by fitnessgoal
Maybe Ephedrine, Recreate and Caffeine would work, but I haven't tried that at all so I can't quite comment.
04-28-2009 05:46 PM
How long should one stay on an ECA stack? Not sure if there is a max time one should use it then take a break. Or is it ok to use until you achieve your desired results.
04-28-2009 05:47 PM
Ive heard of Recreate having good appetite suppressant properties...what I call a lack of discipline lol
04-29-2009 11:47 AM
Can anyone suggest the best brand/herbs for the e/c?like the best quality stuff tht works good(
04-29-2009 08:46 PM
kaizen epedrinehcl and i use allmax caffiene which i find works really well
Originally Posted by jr0d
04-30-2009 11:39 AM
Anybody know how long one should stay on an ECA stack? Is there a certain max amount of time you should use it?
04-30-2009 01:50 PM
Any other suggestions on brand out there also or is everyone using the Kaizen?
Originally Posted by rrm
04-30-2009 02:18 PM
i've different things from everyone....i guess it depends on how you respond to stims. u can do 2 weeks 1 on, 4 on 2 off, 1 on 1 off, 3 on 1 off.....u know, just play with it and figure it out. im doing 6-7, but tapering down, so itll look like 1,2,3,3,2,1...but im a bigger guy and dont get really jittery from stims
Originally Posted by bmw8591
04-30-2009 07:49 PM
was wondering anyone can tell me any sites to get ephedrine thts not from canda?
04-30-2009 08:12 PM
i'm thinking about ordering the kaizen ephedrine http://http://www.vasopro-ephedrine-...nehcl-8mg.html I already have caff. and asprin. but do you guys think it would be ok for me to use this? i'm 18 and on a CKD right now for summer...i don't want to die either lol but i really wanna lose that fat!!
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