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- 04-23-2009, 12:40 AM
and dosing is very individual those with a low tolerance for stimulates have to work there way up letting their body get used to the new stimulant while those with a higher tolerance can start moderate right offf the bat. also take into account bodyweight and work works best for you.Follow me on facebook, twitter and youtube, where I share information and videos to help you achieve your physique goals, John Smeton Ftness
- 04-23-2009, 06:37 AM
Im reading up on it also Ive found out that E&C work well, so may not run the Y, or I could just due Y&C...I dont want to die from the E lol. or I could just take a fat-burner and throw in some extra C or Y
- 04-23-2009, 08:33 AM
Isn't pseudoephedrine hci the same or similar? I've used it before and seems to work, although I've never used ephedrine or norephedrine.
I've used the CVS brand pseudoephedrine hci - 120mg tabs:
* 1/3 - 1/4 tab, about 30mg - 40mg pseudoephedrine hci
* 81mg aspirin
* 100mg - 200mg caffeine
Seems to work; body temperature goes up, breating and heart rate seems to increase, and body fat does come off, but exercise and diet have to be in line as well. The one time I used this consistently was during the winter while on a pseudo-V diet: I took the recipe above, usually exercised first thing in the morning on empty, and followed a pseudo-V diet. Also, I took the recipe above first thing in the morning before exercise and sometimes around noon - if I take it any later I have trouble sleeping at night.
However, I don't like taking stimulants or at least not for long. I've found that TTA works pretty well, especially if you also use sesamin and consume fish, olive, flax, or any other healthy fat.
04-27-2009, 09:33 AM
Im on day 3 of my EC stack...not really dosing Y, so far Im loving it! Im thinking about taking Redline (pills, not the drink) Pre-WO. what does anyone think about that? The ingredients don't seem to strong, a bunch of stuff, but its only 1085mg or something...
04-27-2009, 09:36 AM
Proprietary Blend: (Caffeine Citrate, Caffeine Anhydrous, Evoburn Pure Evodiamine, Octapomine, Guggulsterone E & Z, Yerbe Mate, Green Tea, Synephrine, cAMP (adenosine cyclic 3',5'-monophosphate), Vinpocetine, Yohimbine HCL) 910 mg
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04-28-2009, 05:46 PM
How long should one stay on an ECA stack? Not sure if there is a max time one should use it then take a break. Or is it ok to use until you achieve your desired results.
04-28-2009, 05:47 PM
Ive heard of Recreate having good appetite suppressant properties...what I call a lack of discipline lol
04-29-2009, 11:47 AM
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04-30-2009, 11:39 AM
Anybody know how long one should stay on an ECA stack? Is there a certain max amount of time you should use it?
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04-30-2009, 08:12 PM
i'm thinking about ordering the kaizen ephedrine http://http://www.vasopro-ephedrine-...nehcl-8mg.html I already have caff. and asprin. but do you guys think it would be ok for me to use this? i'm 18 and on a CKD right now for summer...i don't want to die either lol but i really wanna lose that fat!!
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05-01-2009, 04:02 AM
Exactly ^^^ Just listen to your body, do not go over 100mg ephedrine a day and try not to take any other stimulants outwith the ECA stack.
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05-04-2009, 04:57 AM
i hope i'm not out of line in asking this but a certain part of this stack is controlled in my country and very hard to get hold of. what i'm wondering is if PE does the same job or if it's not even worth bothering. cheers!
05-04-2009, 08:54 AM
05-04-2009, 10:28 AM
you should be able to order the "certain part of the stack" online...shipping will probably be a helluva lot though since you're down under...what is "PE"
05-04-2009, 11:32 AM
I think he is talking about pseudoephedrine, aka the real Sudafed (the one behind the counter). Do not get the sudafed PE it is worthless. As far as PE vs ephedrine PE is a diasteromer of ephedrine. It will have similar side effects but not as pronounced as ephedrine.
Dosing.. do not go offer 120 mg per day!
I think it would be nice to see a ECA vs PCA stack thread.
05-04-2009, 01:02 PM
yep.. pseudo. sorry for being vague, wasn't sure what the protocol is this kind of 'grey area' stuff
there are some pharmacies here that won't even sell pseudo full stop so it's a little tough
cheers for the advice!
05-04-2009, 10:22 PM
05-05-2009, 08:26 AM
no one has any comments on using a NO product (White Flood, Shotgun, Explode, Superpump...)while on ECA or ECY???
05-05-2009, 01:26 PM
I think a NO product would be fine.. it won't interfer with the stack i wouldn't think and probably give you a nice boost preworkout.. If you are cutting you may wanna avoid the creatine "puffyness" but NO should be fine.
Has anyone done pseudoephedrine instead of ephedrine?
05-05-2009, 01:50 PM
05-05-2009, 02:51 PM
Ive decided not to take a NO product, due to the high amounts of stims, mainly caffeine, but I am taking AEX by VPX, it solely composed of Arginine, Cnidium Monnier, L-Nor Valine, Folic Acid
05-05-2009, 05:51 PM
ive been on ecy for a couple weeks. ive also been taking jacked. at first i would drop the caffeine and just do e and y with a scoop but i think i built up a tolerance quick. im taking ecy 4 times a day with a normal dose of no2 and not noticing much. id say if u lower ur caffeine intake i dont see it as much of a problem. or just skip one dose of eca altogether and use ur no2.
05-05-2009, 05:52 PM
if ur really worried maybe just take some arganine aakg or something with bcaas.on second look it seems like what ur taking is essentially that.
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