Save your money use ECA Stack

[John Smeton]

Since this has been brought up again,I dont know why some of you are so crazzy about 5 bucks.

first bronkaid sux....period,its ephedrine sul.not hci,every single study is based off ephedrine HCI.

second primatene is ok but has 12.5 mg and youd have to take in double the Guaifenesin

rapid action ephedrine is 25mg ephedrine hci and 200mg Guaifenesin/tab,it comes in 48 cap bottles and runs about 17 bucks.

So when you go to walgreens at least make sure your buying ephedrine hci,or buy online and be done with it,I dont like giving them my id when I buy from the local stores anyway

carry on

skratch your very misinforming. see the below post

Have you ever taken bronkaid? I'm using it now and it's working like a charm. Both bronkaid and primatene get the job done. There is a very little difference in the effectiveness of sulfate and hcl.

its about the same I think hcl is 20 % % and sulfate 18 there is very little difference so much it really doesnt matter much

[TheDarkHalf]

skratch your very misinforming. see the below post

its about the same I think hcl is 20 % % and sulfate 18 there is very little difference so much it really doesnt matter much

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I believe there is a post earlier in this thread that tells you the difference between HCL and Sulfate. If HCL works better for you, that's great. Sulfate may also work better for others than HCL, so do not knock it. Everyone will respond differently to different compounds.

[KgTomCat]

IDK wut they problem is, but since Ive been off of ECA, my appetite is through the roof, is this because the suppression is gone? or did I do something wrong? I am always hungry!!

[TheDarkHalf]

IDK wut they problem is, but since Ive been off of ECA, my appetite is through the roof, is this because the suppression is gone? or did I do something wrong? I am always hungry!!

that's what I would assume. But when are we supposed to be full on a cut anyways =p

[John Smeton]

IDK wut they problem is, but since Ive been off of ECA, my appetite is through the roof, is this because the suppression is gone? or did I do something wrong? I am always hungry!!

Yes Eca is an appetite suppressant. Its best to time it for when you go back into eating more calories mode.

[skratch]

Well if some of you want some hard info on why hci is better,I posted the patent on eca,there is over 5000 pages of research there if some of you feel like going out to buy the books they refer to.

Hci is better and has been proven time and time again to be better,tell that to the doctors that spent a decade working of the eca stack that sulfate is better and ask them why they didnt use sulfate.

go take 50mg of sulfate and then wait a few days and take 50mg of hci and you will see why they use it.

way to much broscience in here folks,what I post is backed by research,not hersay of what you think works like a charm.

I foget the site I got mine from,I just did a search for rapid action ephedrine and it came up.

also if someone has ppa(nor ehedrine base)witch I do,means that its just as good as nor ephedrine hci.....guess what? i have almost 500 pills of ppa that dosnt do crap when taken,nothing and I made a thread on asking how to add an hci to the base to make it more potant.

HCI makes a huge difference on the drugs at hand,if you think other wise thats fine but dont come in here preaching like its as good because its not and there is science behind it.

look up the eca patent and see how many univesities used sulfate,Oh wait let me just save you the time,thats right NONE....

[John Smeton]

now now you dont want to admit your wrong...dude do some more research before you bash stuff and run your mouth. just admit that you were wrong both convert to the same thing basically.

[TheDarkHalf]

Well if some of you want some hard info on why hci is better,I posted the patent on eca,there is over 5000 pages of research there if some of you feel like going out to buy the books they refer to.

Hci is better and has been proven time and time again to be better,tell that to the doctors that spent a decade working of the eca stack that sulfate is better and ask them why they didnt use sulfate.

go take 50mg of sulfate and then wait a few days and take 50mg of hci and you will see why they use it.

way to much broscience in here folks,what I post is backed by research,not hersay of what you think works like a charm.

I foget the site I got mine from,I just did a search for rapid action ephedrine and it came up.

also if someone has ppa(nor ehedrine base)witch I do,means that its just as good as nor ephedrine hci.....guess what? i have almost 500 pills of ppa that dosnt do crap when taken,nothing and I made a thread on asking how to add an hci to the base to make it more potant.

HCI makes a huge difference on the drugs at hand,if you think other wise thats fine but dont come in here preaching like its as good because its not and there is science behind it.

look up the eca patent and see how many univesities used sulfate,Oh wait let me just save you the time,thats right NONE....

post a link. We all don't mind being proven wrong every once and a while so long as we become educated and learn something in the process.

[DAdams91982]

Well if some of you want some hard info on why hci is better,I posted the patent on eca,there is over 5000 pages of research there if some of you feel like going out to buy the books they refer to.

Hci is better and has been proven time and time again to be better,tell that to the doctors that spent a decade working of the eca stack that sulfate is better and ask them why they didnt use sulfate.

go take 50mg of sulfate and then wait a few days and take 50mg of hci and you will see why they use it.

way to much broscience in here folks,what I post is backed by research,not hersay of what you think works like a charm.

I foget the site I got mine from,I just did a search for rapid action ephedrine and it came up.

also if someone has ppa(nor ehedrine base)witch I do,means that its just as good as nor ephedrine hci.....guess what? i have almost 500 pills of ppa that dosnt do crap when taken,nothing and I made a thread on asking how to add an hci to the base to make it more potant.

HCI makes a huge difference on the drugs at hand,if you think other wise thats fine but dont come in here preaching like its as good because its not and there is science behind it.

look up the eca patent and see how many univesities used sulfate,Oh wait let me just save you the time,thats right NONE....

Again, I ask you... is Test Enanthate so much better than Cypionate?

When you come to a conclusion you will realize how absurd your statements are.

Now if you want to get into the weight of the salts, then we can have a discussion instead of randomly spewing thoughts with no proof to back it up other than "Well they used it in a study."

The sulfate is much heavier than its counterpart... hence:
Ephedrine HCl is approximately 82% ephedrine by weight.

Ephedrine sulfate is approximately 77% ephedrine by weight.

Adjust for weight.

Adams

[KgTomCat]

Yes Eca is an appetite suppressant. Its best to time it for when you go back into eating more calories mode.

eating more calories??? then why diet??

[KgTomCat]

ooo do you mean "more calories" mode by when your next meal is or when your going to eat, in that particular day?

[TheDarkHalf]

ooo do you mean "more calories" mode by when your next meal is or when your going to eat, in that particular day?

I think he means when you bring your cals back up to maintenace or for bulking purposes. You should run an ECA cycle right before going back into a maintain/bulk phase.

[KgTomCat]

I think he means when you bring your cals back up to maintenace or for bulking purposes. You should run an ECA cycle right before going back into a maintain/bulk phase.

thats my plan before my cycle of Hdrol/Furaguno. but being that both of these compounds are "cutters" I will not be doing a conventional bulk, just slighty eating over maintenance

[John Smeton]

KgTomCat plan to up calories when you come off of the eca stack.

[KgTomCat]

KgTomCat plan to up calories when you come off of the eca stack.

I did, and will do it again, and I learned some more about Cortisol, and got some DHEA

[skratch]

Again, I ask you... is Test Enanthate so much better than Cypionate?

When you come to a conclusion you will realize how absurd your statements are.

Now if you want to get into the weight of the salts, then we can have a discussion instead of randomly spewing thoughts with no proof to back it up other than "Well they used it in a study."

The sulfate is much heavier than its counterpart... hence:
Ephedrine HCl is approximately 82% ephedrine by weight.

Ephedrine sulfate is approximately 77% ephedrine by weight.

Adjust for weight.

Adams

it has nothing to do with the weight,adding hci to base ephedrine increses the absortion and affects of the drug in the body.

I have base 1r,2s nor-ephedrine,it takes huge amounts to give it the bang the hci version would give.I am going to attempt to add hci to it for better intake.

adding hci to base ephedrine makes it stronger in the body,go ahead and try the 2 and see witch one is more potant.even if you take in a little more sulfate the hci will still hit harder.

[KgTomCat]

just a quick poll...which do you (anyone reading along) prefer ???
ECA or ECY

[TheDarkHalf]

Can you take EC while on a cycle of PH/AAS and/or during PCT? Just curious, don't remember if i've seen this in here or not.

[KgTomCat]

^X2 bump

[John Smeton]

ECA