Save your money use ECA Stack
- 06-16-2009, 10:52 AM
- 06-16-2009, 10:57 AM
If you monitor your vitals pretty often, then some low dose T2 with ECA might be worthwhile.
AdamsThe Historic PES Legend
06-16-2009, 11:36 AM
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06-16-2009, 12:00 PM
SAN has Thyrocuts 2, which is their version of T2. They also have something called T3 in the nutraplanet store.
Looks like adding T2 to ECA may be worth it after all, just seems like one would have to determine a safe, but yet effective dosage.
06-16-2009, 12:07 PM
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06-17-2009, 12:12 AM
06-17-2009, 09:24 AM
Can't speak to Recreate as USP is kind of shady with their labeling IMO, however their products are still very effective.
06-17-2009, 10:21 AM
06-17-2009, 01:40 PM
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned adding L-tyrosine to their ECA stack. L-tyrosine is an amino acid used in the synthesis of adrenaline and noradrenaline.
06-17-2009, 06:42 PM
I bought July Md issue yesterday and Justin Harris talks about tyrosine. I have yet to read it. I know for a fact it's a precursor to dopamine. I used to take it for a good while alone, pre-workout and it works for sure.
I used it the other day with my eca stack.
I know with all the protein i get in im getting in tyrosine and I dont know if its the same effect as tyrosine alone.
Ive been in quite a few threads on tyrosine , on this board,you could search for that probally have a lot of information in them. as I used to use it before intense training sessions to amp myself up.
its something I like to keep handy.
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06-17-2009, 07:58 PM
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06-18-2009, 08:00 AM
well....interesting read. It clearly states that A isn't needed, A only has a significant fat loss in obese subjects, also says that Y works better, is safer, and even if not obese, still a good amount of fat loss
06-18-2009, 09:36 AM
That stack they propose is interesting. However, I'm going to continue with my ECA and add in the L-tyrosine to my dosing and see what happens.
06-18-2009, 09:48 AM
I dont fully understand the purpose of adding L-tyrosine, all I got was something about neuro-transmitters
06-18-2009, 12:59 PM
06-18-2009, 05:23 PM
I've read on here about people cycling on and off Eph, I read on PubMed that chronic use has shown increaced fat burning effects.
I want to try this out, but as I am going to go on a ph cycle soon I don't want my bp to be raised further so I am only going to use it for a few more weeks.
06-18-2009, 07:09 PM
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06-18-2009, 07:45 PM
Watch your vitals.. plaque build up can happen quick if there BP and heart rate are elevated.
The Historic PES Legend
06-18-2009, 08:27 PM
as for the aspirin, it is a NSAID which are known to slow protein synthesis:
This article tells you:
-Post exercise protein synthesis still occurs, though to a lesser degree, even with chronic NSAID use. Hypertrophy should follow the same pattern.
-NSAID use is a viable therapeutic option for relief of DOMS related pain and should be considered when soreness alters level of activity in daily tasks—don’t suffer needlessly for the benefit of your biceps.
So basically using NSAID may not be the best if you are trying to maximize skeletal muscle retention while cutting.
Hence why I chose Y,
And i found it good !
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