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  1. ooo do you mean "more calories" mode by when your next meal is or when your going to eat, in that particular day?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    ooo do you mean "more calories" mode by when your next meal is or when your going to eat, in that particular day?
    I think he means when you bring your cals back up to maintenace or for bulking purposes. You should run an ECA cycle right before going back into a maintain/bulk phase.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    I think he means when you bring your cals back up to maintenace or for bulking purposes. You should run an ECA cycle right before going back into a maintain/bulk phase.
    thats my plan before my cycle of Hdrol/Furaguno. but being that both of these compounds are "cutters" I will not be doing a conventional bulk, just slighty eating over maintenance

  4. KgTomCat plan to up calories when you come off of the eca stack.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    KgTomCat plan to up calories when you come off of the eca stack.
    I did, and will do it again, and I learned some more about Cortisol, and got some DHEA
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Again, I ask you... is Test Enanthate so much better than Cypionate?

    When you come to a conclusion you will realize how absurd your statements are.

    Now if you want to get into the weight of the salts, then we can have a discussion instead of randomly spewing thoughts with no proof to back it up other than "Well they used it in a study."

    The sulfate is much heavier than its counterpart... hence:
    Ephedrine HCl is approximately 82% ephedrine by weight.

    Ephedrine sulfate is approximately 77% ephedrine by weight.

    Adjust for weight.

    Adams


    it has nothing to do with the weight,adding hci to base ephedrine increses the absortion and affects of the drug in the body.

    I have base 1r,2s nor-ephedrine,it takes huge amounts to give it the bang the hci version would give.I am going to attempt to add hci to it for better intake.

    adding hci to base ephedrine makes it stronger in the body,go ahead and try the 2 and see witch one is more potant.even if you take in a little more sulfate the hci will still hit harder.

  7. just a quick poll...which do you (anyone reading along) prefer ???
    ECA or ECY

  8. Can you take EC while on a cycle of PH/AAS and/or during PCT? Just curious, don't remember if i've seen this in here or not.

  9. ^X2 bump

  10. ECA
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  11. I need to play the part of annoying newb because honestly there seems to be too much opinion and not enough fact having to do with the amount of asprin to take.

    I've never taken asprin with this stack but am thinking 2 baby asprin a day but am hesitant because that is something I just pulled out of thin air.

    Does anyone know what dose is A. Needed to get the desired effect B. Still low as possible for those on other substances that may challenge the liver ect.

  12. Allow me to introduce myself on this first post...

    6'2, 265, 32 yo, former athlete now gone to beer drinking and a more sedentary profession.

    Getting back into the swing of things and was considering a Clen cycle, but will go ECA out of convenience.

    I'll keep the peanut gallery posted on my progress...

  13. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    I need to play the part of annoying newb because honestly there seems to be too much opinion and not enough fact having to do with the amount of asprin to take.

    I've never taken asprin with this stack but am thinking 2 baby asprin a day but am hesitant because that is something I just pulled out of thin air.

    Does anyone know what dose is A. Needed to get the desired effect B. Still low as possible for those on other substances that may challenge the liver ect.
    do a baby aspirin with each dose
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  14. baby Aspirin
    lol

  15. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    baby Aspirin
    lol
    Not even sure how you got humor from that but good for you

  16. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Can you take EC while on a cycle of PH/AAS and/or during PCT? Just curious, don't remember if i've seen this in here or not.
    bump.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    bump.
    Just watch your BP... During PCT I would be on a cort blocker and have cals up

  18. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Just watch your BP... During PCT I would be on a cort blocker and have cals up
    Yea I didn't know if I was going to do it or not, not a big fan of getting headaches lol. I've got plenty of support supps. Just keeping the ECA aspect of this thread going!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Not even sure how you got humor from that but good for you
    Its funny for someone my size to take a baby Aspirin

  20. DarkHalf, your doing ECA in your PCT?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    DarkHalf, your doing ECA in your PCT?
    No. I was just curious if one could and if there would be any benefit.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    No. I was just curious if one could and if there would be any benefit.
    Eh there are so many possible benefits and losses.

    It will up cortisol levels but at some level could be muscle sparing BUT could possibly encourage you do be dieting in PCT which isn't smart. Also if it hurts your appetite its no good. Then again for motivation in the gym it helps... I really don't think it will have much of a net positive or negative impact.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Eh there are so many possible benefits and losses.

    It will up cortisol levels but at some level could be muscle sparing BUT could possibly encourage you do be dieting in PCT which isn't smart. Also if it hurts your appetite its no good. Then again for motivation in the gym it helps... I really don't think it will have much of a net positive or negative impact.
    what if you just kept your cals really clean? and ate anyway, even if your appetite is suppressed

  24. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    what if you just kept your cals really clean? and ate anyway, even if your appetite is suppressed
    Like I said its kind of opinion based. Some say it is muscle sparing but I never saw much proof. As long as you are using it to eat over maintenance but keep fat gains down rather than to diet then I don't see why it would hurt.

  25. ^X2...I think when people eat way over maintenance cals they just gain fat...
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