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  1. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    The hypertension and heart contraction increase doesn't warrant any benefits above the risks.

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    How can one monitor this?

    Tempted to run 6 weeks of ECY and find out.

    Because thats quite worrying.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    I read not to mix y in the eca stack. call me crazy I'll go with the tried and true. ECA all the way!
    Well I mean you'd obviously drop the A if you were going to add Y. So i'll ask the same question again, why not get a fat burner that has C and Y, and just throw in the E?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by 0-hero View Post
    How can one monitor this?

    Tempted to run 6 weeks of ECY and find out.

    Because thats quite worrying.
    The Y coupled with the E causes a baseline heart increase to a pretty good amount, and spiking blood pressure is an issue. The problem with those two things combined is the micro abrasions the extra pressure and increased rate of blood flow causes when cells strikes the artery walls, giving LDL a place to gain a foothold and build up extra plague at an early stage. With these factors, heart disease has a much more likelihood in the future.

    Y gives you a mental boost because it speeds you up pretty good, and hurts the old appetite, it does nothing in the stack... you cannot even call it a stack. A stack is synergistic, this is just throwing a tin can on a fire to hear it crackle.

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    For more safe practical applications one should use ECA or CYG - Caffeine, Yohimbine and GTE.

    I alternate now and no longer use E and Y in the same dose.

  5. then Ill go with ECA
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    Just started ECA, and I can really feel the impact - energy levels are quite elevated, between-meal appetite diminished markedly.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by JDK5386 View Post
    Just started ECA, and I can really feel the impact - energy levels are quite elevated, between-meal appetite diminished markedly.
    itll wear off after 1-2 weeks then you have to up the dosing
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    itll wear off after 1-2 weeks then you have to up the dosing
    I've been upping the dosing every 7 days. Once I hit 4 bronk, 4 no doze, and 4 aspirin EOD i'll start to taper it back down a week at a time.

  9. 4 no doze....caff?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    4 no doze....caff?
    Yep!

  11. OOO Im dumb...damn bro, 4 ED, wow, I felt amazing at 3 ED...

  12. Quote Originally Posted by IRONPOPE View Post
    No fat burner is more effective than the ECA stack...or if u can stand it the ECY stack...so why waste money on fat burners that dont stack up...

    i dont get it? none of them can touch the ECA..
    if they could...they would be banned for fat loss just like Ephedra is
    Agree. I used ECAY(green stinger)+Keto. Really does work compare to clen

  13. yea...on the low carb/keto issue, Im only going to eat carbs pre-WO, and those will be 1/4-1/2 cup of oats, and NO CHEATING

  14. 4 is my highest.

    Im sensative to stimulants and they keep me up.

    has anyone dosed 2 bronk's(50 ephedrine) with 200 caffiene. can one do this. id rather take two doses. for best results a person is not to take them less than 4 hours apart. i try to dose 4 hours apart and if I go any more than this I cannot sleep! does any one know what I mean or has done this?
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  15. Ive never done it
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    Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    itll wear off after 1-2 weeks then you have to up the dosing
    Yeah I'm already noticing a small drop off on day 3. I'm leaning towards cycling 2 weeks on/off.

  17. its best to run it strait though. cycling off 2 weeks on and 2 off works well for Clen. Eca is a whole different thing and people got this mixed up
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    Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    its best to run it strait though. cycling off 2 weeks on and 2 off works well for Clen. Eca is a whole different thing and people got this mixed up
    I thought it was cycled to prevent rapid tolerance buildup? Or is tolerance building inevitable when on ECA?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by JDK5386 View Post
    I thought it was cycled to prevent rapid tolerance buildup? Or is tolerance building inevitable when on ECA?
    nope thats clen. people got them mixed up. they work in different ways
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by JDK5386 View Post
    Yeah I'm already noticing a small drop off on day 3. I'm leaning towards cycling 2 weeks on/off.
    not 2 on 2 off, maybe 4 on 2 off....
    Quote Originally Posted by JDK5386 View Post
    I thought it was cycled to prevent rapid tolerance buildup? Or is tolerance building inevitable when on ECA?
    tolerance is inevitable...on anything

  21. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    The Y coupled with the E causes a baseline heart increase to a pretty good amount, and spiking blood pressure is an issue. The problem with those two things combined is the micro abrasions the extra pressure and increased rate of blood flow causes when cells strikes the artery walls, giving LDL a place to gain a foothold and build up extra plague at an early stage. With these factors, heart disease has a much more likelihood in the future.

    Y gives you a mental boost because it speeds you up pretty good, and hurts the old appetite, it does nothing in the stack... you cannot even call it a stack. A stack is synergistic, this is just throwing a tin can on a fire to hear it crackle.

    Adams


    Adams what do you think of ECA + Alpha-Y stack? Now that DSADE has alpha burn this is a real possibility and seems it would not cause the same HR and BP problems as the Y with E but I would love to hear your feedback?

    Mr.50

  22. Hey all, appreciate the active thread here.

    Started the ECA cycle on Monday, and I'm here on Saturday having dropped 5 pounds (265 to 260) and on schedule with daily workouts (upper body/ HIIT).

    Just ramped up to 2 Bronks, 2 No Doz, and 2 baby aspirins this morning with no sides. Curious...gradually in the next week or two should I be ramping up the E,C, and A past 4/4/4?

  23. I wouldnt go more than 4...but its your decision

  24. also, just so everyone knows, I had a little cortisol rebound when I went off of ECA, Im taking DHEA now, and its subsiding

  25. Quote Originally Posted by SkinnyMinnie View Post
    The government just prefers to be totalitarian in banning them and not risk having people kill themselves with them, even though there are people who are sensible when they use them.
    and its a great thing that all people sensibly use cigarettes, or the government would ban them to. as long as we keep smoking deaths in the usa between 450,000-500,000 every single year, we know its totally sensible and people arent killing themselves that much as the ephedrine users who are just junkies and should be a crime.

  26. This is a great video for coming off . He talks about it at the beginning

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  27. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    also, just so everyone knows, I had a little cortisol rebound when I went off of ECA, Im taking DHEA now, and its subsiding
    Did you taper off or just quit cold turkey?

  28. good video

  29. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Did you taper off or just quit cold turkey?
    I know its bad to stop cold turkey, espec on stims such as ECA, I did a 2 day taper...wasn't enough, obviously

  30. I love my ECA stack... just as effective as clen IMO
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