Hcg diet + Alcohol = remarkable results.

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  1. go http://www.dermahealthinstitute.com/...articles_****73

    and

    here http://hcgcoach.com/before_afters.shtml

    and here http://gs70.photobucket.com/groups/i111/69VG7BTK80/

    I have been doing research on this for a while, it seems to be working for really obese people. Concievably the hCG frees up adipose tissue for the daily energy needs thats why you only need to eat 500 cals a day.

    Furthermore, I will be posting a log containing me and my wifes results on this, with before/after pics, as well as we will go get our BF% tested before, during and after.

    I intend to put this to the test, im sceptical, but have ordered the stuff, just have to wait for delivery


  2. hCG doesn't cause lipolysis. Inducing a ketogenic state will induce it.

    hCG will assist with hormone levels only, while on an extreme starvation diet such as this. But with lacking nutrients, I don't see how hCG will even do it's job properly...you're not going to have the building blocks to produce hormones at a proper level on this type of diet.
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  3. !!!


    Yeah, uh, dudes, I stopped eating altogether. I dose 2g of DNP daily, shoot 3,000mg of test E. weekly and 400mg of Tren EOD, pop clen like it's PEZ and stay properly hydrated by slamming a 12 pack of MGD every night. I don't lift weights or do cardio, but my bodyfat is like under 1%. I feel freakin' awesome. Oh yeah, I I.V. 5000IUs of HCG every three hours, just for kicks. I've started lactating, but my "doctor" told me just to drink the breast milk for a little extra protein.

    jeez...

  4. Well, I have a lot of comments as I've played with the diet before.

    My review here.

    My personal feelings is that I don't see the HCG having any effect from the scientific studies, but you'll notice people in both groups tended to loss a lot of weight - which makes sense since it's a Very Low Calorie Diet. Lyle McDonald recommends a crash diet very similar in his Rapid Fat Loss Handbook as well.

    I personally think that a protein sparing diet that is low in calories, while continuing to weight lift as heavy as possible and regular cardio is a very efficient and fast way for people who are in the 20+% bodyfat range to lose weight. I took creatine during my experience with it and actually got stronger.

    This is obviously not a long term strategy for health, but it terms of effectiveness, I think it's right up there with DNP.

    I would check out my review as I tried to make it pretty unbiased and answer a lot of questions about it. I realize this goes against a lot of conventional wisdom, but I would recommend everyone to investigate further before making judgments.

  5. Another thing to note, not that i am a conspiracy theorist or anything, is that if hCG really did work as advertised (lb a day in 23-44 day cycles with 4 week break in between) there would be a lot of supplement companies really pissed off because the masses would flock to it rather than continuing to prop up a multi billion dollar industry (weight loss pills, gym memberships, diet books, jenny craig etc).

    Im just saying is all, also it would be beneficial for people to actually spend some time researching before flaming, just in the interest of having a constructive conversation.

    Cheers!
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  6. this should be called the lindsay lohan gollum diet.

    LLgd.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Kristopher View Post
    Another thing to note, not that i am a conspiracy theorist or anything, is that if hCG really did work as advertised (lb a day in 23-44 day cycles with 4 week break in between) there would be a lot of supplement companies really pissed off because the masses would flock to it rather than continuing to prop up a multi billion dollar industry (weight loss pills, gym memberships, diet books, jenny craig etc).

    Im just saying is all, also it would be beneficial for people to actually spend some time researching before flaming, just in the interest of having a constructive conversation.

    Cheers!
    Interested to see your results. Going to start a log somewhere?

    Also, how much HCG is it per day? Just wondering. From the post I wrote above, it looks like 200U/ml blood concentration (dunno what this works out to if you were to inject one bolus IM) is correlated with hyperthyroidism.

    I'm wondering how much of the "HCG" effect is mediated via increasing hormone release versus cross-reactivity with the thyroid receptor. I also have no input into the mechanism that HCG could have on appetite suppression. It looks from all this that the main reason for the HCG is to suppress the appetite so that 500kcal is actually do-able. Any thoughts on the MOA for app supp?

  8. Hcg does contribute towards weight loss, but doesnt cause it, DNP causes weight loss, i would rather use something else other than the excretion from a womans vulva to help me loose weight, Albuterol would be my preference.
    Gause institute member

    Need2slin designer.Product designer/ N2BM admin.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by FlawedGrunt View Post
    Wow if this doesnt feel like spam.. first post includes a link to a doctors website who magically has the cure make people lose weight... everyone call him!

    That was NOT spam. I included the link becasue of the simple fact that everyone on here is so skeptical. That is why I said call him and see for yourself. I have people emailing me cursing me out. This is crazy I am sorry I ever tried to tell anyone my story on this stupid forum! Thank you all so much!!!

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Cinn View Post
    Let's be honest here dude. There's no such thing as a holistic doctor. Spend that wasted money on a gym membership next time.
    You know what I did. I hired a personal trainer for 8 months. I went 3 times a week and did his diet. You know how much I lost 8 lbs! So I tried something else and it worked. I tried the south beach diet, that did not work. I tried the eat clean diet, that did not work. I tried nutrisystem, that was grose, so that did not work. I went to a "holistic" Dr. and he put me on a program that worked for me! Finally, something that did. So shoot me! Now I am going to be off the HCG at the end of May and I found a fabulous personal trainer that specializes in "woman" competition fiqure training. Cannot wait!

  11. I will be starting a log here in the weight loss forum, probably beginning of june. The pins and swabs showed up today, just waiting on the hCG to ship from singapore, and the BA and other essentials from a med supply company. Everything should be ready to go for a june start, if not mid may. Will definately be putting this to the test.

    From what i read, all the hCG does (like in pregnant women) is bypass the bodies need for external calories sources, and utilizes stored fat for energy, you should really read simeons paper (easy to find on the internet) he has an explanation about the different types of fat (standard energy usage, structural, and unaccessable stored) he says that the hCG makes the usually inaccessable fat the first thing to be used up (rather than muscle say).

    The paper he wrote answers basically every question asked here, i just dont feel like copying and pasting.

    Cheers

  12. i've personally have done the diet, two of my friends have as well, as well as 3 of my brothers, and i can attest that it does make you lose fat.

    hcg basically is a dramatic muscle sparing appetite suppressant. its appetite suppression comes from the fact that it releases your body's fat to be used as fuel. so theoretically you are living off of thousands of calories a day + the 500 cals you are taking in.

    just recently two of my brothers have gotten off of the diet and both lost upwards of 25lbs in a 26-shot ( 23 days of dieting ) cycle.

    i tried the diet , but i couldn't make it past a week ( i guess your hunger isn't satiated until around day 10 or so ) i may try it again , if my diet/supplement plan i am about to start doesn't pan out

    and for everyone saying '' all of the weight loss is glycogen , and water, etc '' understand, please, that once glycogen stores are depleted, you don't lose anymore.

    CONS:

    i didn't have a bowel movement for 7 days straight, i missed food like no other ( any food ) i opened up peanut butter jars just to smell it lol. also i couldn't sleep.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by whiskers View Post
    Well since that's exactly what it is, I guess so. (minus my addition of social drinking)
    Whiskers~~
    any new info on the HCg.... are you still having a few ****tails on HCg and lossing. For I am doing the HCg diet and Im dying to have a few drinks on the weekend but dont want to screw up my weightloss, any info would be helpful from you!

    thanks

    Marian

  14. bump for more info

  15. my wife has been doing it. I use it for other reasons, but it hasn't helped her appitite at all, and its very hard for her to do 500 cals a day but she does it. however her loss isn't as described at all. I think its bull****. I mean, she had abs already and works out, but in like 3 weeks she only lost like a couple pounds. with her behavior I'd say her metabolism slowed almost immediately.

  16. I did this diet and lost 65 pounds in 4 months did not lose any muscel it works guys I know some BB's who will do this diet befor a comp.

  17. Wow im amazed with all the haters. HCG isnot bs. The dramatic 20+ lbs lost are from the over weight not the in shape low bf% people. I was a little skeptical at first but my sister lost 23 lbs and has kept off 15.

  18. I have been on VLCDs I have been on HCG. I think the HCG diet is BS, people are losing the weight cause of having 500 calories a day, HCG or not your going to lose the weight and at 500calories a day you can kiss your appetite good bye.

    I looked up as many studies I could, there is no scientific evidence that HCG promotes fat loss, the only advantage I could see HCG having on a VLCD is increasing well being but in my personal experience even that wears off after afew weeks.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by ItsHectic View Post
    I have been on VLCDs I have been on HCG. I think the HCG diet is BS, people are losing the weight cause of having 500 calories a day, HCG or not your going to lose the weight and at 500calories a day you can kiss your appetite good bye.

    I looked up as many studies I could, there is no scientific evidence that HCG promotes fat loss, the only advantage I could see HCG having on a VLCD is increasing well being but in my personal experience even that wears off after afew weeks.

    the fact that you think it is BS doesnt really mean anything. my brother had the hardest time losing weight. he tried clen, t3, and low cal diets, and the fat would not budge. since hes done hcg, he has become a full believer, losing most of his weight, and maintaining a great deal of muscle. he will be starting on his 3rd and last cycle soon to get rid of the rest of his fat.

    i used to think it was nonsense as well, but as i've seen, people are getting real results that they were not getting before, so does it really matter what ''scientific'' evidence you have, when others have empirical evidence?
    For me, the action IS the juice.

  20. Read:

    hCG Diet Log - the test.

    FWIW i did lose around 20lbs and have basically kept it off for 6 months. I have seen double blind studies that show that hcg does NOTHING while on a VLCD.

    Your stomach shrinks, your blood sugar stabilizes, and your body gets used to 500 cals a day. HCG has nothing to do with this process.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Kristopher View Post
    Read:

    hCG Diet Log - the test.

    FWIW i did lose around 20lbs and have basically kept it off for 6 months. I have seen double blind studies that show that hcg does NOTHING while on a VLCD.

    Your stomach shrinks, your blood sugar stabilizes, and your body gets used to 500 cals a day. HCG has nothing to do with this process.
    the study doesn't mean anything. empirical evidence does.


    if i can do t3 and clen and eat 1300 cals a day and not lose any weight, but then i do a special diet consisting of very specific foods eating 500 cals and lose weight, what does that mean?


    if it was all about the 500 cals, you could eat whatever you want as long as its <500 and still lose weight, which isnt the case. - ive done that many, many times without losing any weight. conversely , if the hcg did nothing, why is weight gain so dramatic if your diet differs from the protocol at all?

    ive also had a friend eat one plate of spaghetti and one piece of bread while on hcg, and gain 8lbs in one night. you cannot tell me he completely refilled all glycogen stores with 1 normal plate of spaghetti and 1 piece of bread.


    the bottom line is, ive seen real world results so i could give a fig about what some studies say. i have 3 brothers [ 1 that used to be a cage fighter and has tons of muscle] and a sister in law on hcg who have seen close to no LBM loss, but alot of fat loss, so where does that leave us?
    For me, the action IS the juice.

  22. Placebo is a powerful thing people..

  23. Research "protein sparing modified fast"

  24. OK..newbie poster but longtime follower. I just tried 14 days on the HCG low cal diet. I have to admit that with the help of HCG and appetite suppressants, hunger pains died after about the 3rd day. Essentially what the HCG does is target your abnormal fat, not your structural fat that would happen during starvation mode.

    HCG takes the abnormal fat and processes it in the body for necessary nutrients? Energy. I don't get it entirely scientifically, but I have to say I stopped after 2 weeks. The reason? I actually didn't feel all that bad, but I'm going to assume that due to fat processing into the bloodstream for calories, it can't be a benefit for the organs that require other vitamins and minerals. There just isn't any long term studies to show any negative affects yet.

    I consider myself a bigger than average dude. 6' and 225 pounds with about 14% body fat normally. I dropped to 10% after 2 weeks of HCG and I wasnt' all that strict. I drank a little bit and ate a bit more than I was supposed to on certain days.

    Anyway, I still have a lot of HCG. I am wondering if anyone knows what would happen if I continued taking HCG without the appetite suppressents and maintained my normal dieting which consists of the typical 6 meals and cardio in the morning. Will it be counter-productive or could I see some results either negative or positive?

  25. if anyone eats 500 calls a day,they will loose massive amounts of weight.I did triac and around 1500 calls and lost 10lbs in 6 days,its possible but not healthy at all.

    drop the hcg and just eat 500 calls,I bet you will drop weight
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