Low carb diet
- 09-16-2008, 12:16 AM
Low carb diet
Okay so I am gonna do no carb for about a month or two and then slowly increase carbs back to current level. I take muscle milk lite(until starting diet), multivitamin, fish oil, coconut oil, zma and bromocriptine to lower my prolactin. I am thinking about adding a calcium supplement. My question is this with low to no carbs what else should I do since there will be less calcium, no sugar, more fat........in my diet. Is the fish oil enough to keep cholesterol in check? I have low testosterone, but I think that it would be better to do this and lose weight.
- 09-16-2008, 12:25 AM
- 09-16-2008, 03:21 PM
I'm not sure if Bromo plus a low carb diet would be the best choice. I know that it can cause hypogycemia so combining it with a no carb diet might be problematic. I haven't used it before so I don't have a definative answer for you. Just feel it out and if you get too hypo, then stop the bromo. You could always add P-5-P and/or mucana but it probably won't be as effective at reducing prolactin. Perhaps some with a little more experience with bromo could chime in.
09-17-2008, 04:01 PM
Try UD 2.0
Low carb for a long time is retarded as the person doing it.
You'll lose to much muscle and feel like ****.
09-17-2008, 07:40 PM
i'd say that you do what is called "carb cycling." one high day, next mid day, next low day, followed by one/two no days. and then repeat. i've never used this method, but i can bet it works, as i've seen people use it with results.
09-17-2008, 08:31 PM
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09-19-2008, 11:17 AM
09-20-2008, 01:11 AM
that's fine with the whey, multi, etc.... don't take calcium 1-2 hours before or 1-2 hours after ZMA, Calcium inhibits the absorption of zinc.
Cholesterol is not gonna be an issue, it actually improves for most people on a low carb diet.
09-20-2008, 01:16 AM
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09-24-2008, 04:28 AM
09-24-2008, 08:25 AM
09-24-2008, 10:59 AM
don't people take bromo to increase their insulin sensitivity??? If you are doing low carbs, you should end up with a really high insulin sensitivity anyways. The only place I could see it helping is on refeed days if you decide to implement them
09-24-2008, 11:15 AM
09-24-2008, 11:48 AM
P5P and chast berry with Ldopa to lower prolactin, ditch the bromocriptine
as for the diet low carb is the way to go,
fats from your EFAs fish chicken red meat olive oil macadamia nut oil,
do a refeed meal 1 time a week on that same day and time every week.
low intensity cardio,
low volume training with high intensity and no longer then 1 hour in the gym (unless u do cardio.)
take mulit, and calcium+D fiber supps inbetween meals (not with a fatty acid supplement)
veggies should be limited as they will keep bulk in your stomach and keep it streched, (dont have more then 2 servings a day)
this is a great outline for a keto (being a nutrition makor i still shouldnt be telling you how to do it lol, but if i said it wont work id be lying just like the ADA)
soooo any other questions.? did i cover eveything?
09-30-2008, 02:54 AM
09-30-2008, 09:17 AM
Okay well I just got back from vitamin world and the grocery store. I got enough food for about two weeks of CKD. My new stack is this Fish oil 3x a day w each main meal, Multivitamin 1x in the morning and bone care w Calcium, vitamins d and k 1x in the morning. I dropped the ZMA and instead I bought separate bottles of Zinc, Magnesium, and B-6 I am going to take one of each at night with 1tbsp coconut oil. Is it okay to take the coconut oil while on CKD? Is there anything else that can help keep my heart healthy? I am also thinking about adding creatine.
09-30-2008, 09:43 PM
09-30-2008, 10:48 PM
10-01-2008, 12:38 AM
Fiberlyze by species nutrition is GREAT, also the OMEGALYZE (its a complete fatty acid supp with GLA EPA DHA ect..)
do NOT take your fish oil with fiber, itll bind the the fatty acids and will be useless.
if you dont get fiberlyze, go for some orange sugar free metamucil. (the other flavors taste like ****.)
10-01-2008, 10:05 AM
Off topic a little bit, but for the last few days I have been constipated. I am eliminating caffeine and adding fiber. I started the CKD diet today so I don't think it is what caused it. I have been for the last three months taking muscle milke lite twice a day. I am experiencing symptoms of Irritable Bowel Syndrome abdominal discomfort that alleviates with movement....... Is it possible I am taking too much stuff and it's clogging me up? Should I do a cleanse or something or is adding the fiber enough?
10-01-2008, 02:53 PM
high fiber and not enough watrer can back u up and dehydrate you aswell,
high fiber a lot of water, should be a staple in any diet.
its most likely the fact that you are not eating any fiber, feeling bloated, constipated, stomach pains ect, have a heaping tablespoon of metamucil drink a **** load of water , and call me in the morning lol. you can do this every 4 hours until you ****. and then just to stay regular after that first initial crap, haqve it inbetween every meal,
10-02-2008, 06:31 PM
when supplementing with fiber, you should gradually increase the dose (as well as make sure you have enough water). Too much fiber when you are not use to it can cause tummy issues for sure
10-02-2008, 11:17 PM
I drink lots of water all day. I take it in the morning half an hour before breakfast. I drink a large glass of water before and after taking it. Tastes gross, but it does the job. I am working towards twice a day, but want to like you suggested take it slow. I still feel discomfort though even though I am going more often. It feels like pressure from my pelvis to my lower abdomen like I need to fart or some s*it. It has been four days. I am hoping it goes away. I am going to the doctor in a week or two if it doesn't. Also my testes are fine no bumps and I have been having bloodwork up the a** and my endo says no problems so far even though I have low test.
10-03-2008, 12:25 AM
I take fiber sure tablets when dieting if I get hungry between meals. One day, I accidentally took too many (not sure how many though). I was sitting in class in serious pain because I had to fart so bad. Serious bloating and stomach cramps. I think I might of torn something if I had let it all out at once. I had to release it in control burst as I walked to my car because there where lots of people around. It was about a 5 minute walk and I was seriously farting every 10 seconds.
10-03-2008, 12:37 AM
10-14-2008, 06:47 PM
Okay so far I lost 8 pounds in about two weeks. After my second refeed I gained back 4 pounds. I found this website saying it is the glucose binding to water and being sored as glycogen. It says it is normal. What do you guys think?
10-14-2008, 11:23 PM
Yes very normal, very real. Glycogen is hydroscopic, it will draw in water into the muscles. One of the reasons for the drastic weight drops when people enter keto. Lowered glycogen stores, lowered intramuscular water stores.
10-15-2008, 10:17 AM
10-16-2008, 09:57 PM
I lost another 2 pounds so things are going good. I am thinking of doing cardio in the morning a few times a week before breakfast. I think I will be doing this for about two months. Hopefully by Christmas I will be more fit and maybe post some pics.
10-17-2008, 12:11 PM
10-17-2008, 12:33 PM
I run a low carb (only carbs from brocolli and some cottege cheese) and i carb up every 18th meal (last meal every third day - essentially) I too lost about 8 lbs and i've plateaued a bit at 195 after 8 weeks. It doesn't bother me though b/c I'm losing inches consistently and my strength has either stayed the same or gone up over that time. the 8 pounds was all fat. I'm only running somewhere between 1800 and 2000 cals a day. i run alot of protein and fat in the diet. point is, don't worry about the weight. worry about the mirror.
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