Which fat burner to order?

[drummaboyzl]

i am 23.5

you know a child has grown up when he stops counting his age past whole numbers lol. j\k

so how's the bulk coming?

[thaOrleanyte]

As far as "fat burners" go ECA/ECY is where it at.

DCP is a fat metabolizer, but dont get me wrong, i hear it works well.

I have been having great results with the ol' fashioned ECY stack. Losin lb's like its cool and keeps my energy high while im cuttin calories. I do kinda feel cracked out sometimes but i think the results are worth it. Also its alot cheaper and more effective than other fat burners.

I really think ECY is the way to go in the world of fat burners and it's what im gonna stick to whenever im on a cut.

thaO

[thaOrleanyte]

dcp is a fat mobilizer or metabolizer...... i cant remeber. I know it's a fatty acid that helps release adipose fattty crap.

[ndnguy85]

you know a child has grown up when he stops counting his age past whole numbers lol. j\k

so how's the bulk coming?

got the diet down. gained about 2lbs in a month. about where i wanted to be. dont see any visible muscular changes yet..but i did notice a slight fat gain in the top ab area. about 0.25 inches. nothing major.

strength has increased but i guess that's expected since i was coming off a cut.

i am trying to get the training down. i do an upper/lower split. trying to figure out the best rep range for me. also experimenting with pyramid sets. any input is appreciated.

bench press - 5 sets (15,12,10,8,6)
dumbbell row - 5 sets (15,12,10,8,6)
side deltoid - 2-3sets
ez bar curl - 4 sets
db tricep extension - 3 sets
traps - 2-3 sets
rear delts - 2 sets

everything else is 8-12 reps.

[thaOrleanyte]

little overzealous in your benching endeavors if u ask me. If your gonna do pyramids, cut it down to 3 sets (12, 10,8 (for starters)). or you could 5x5 it for some good strength gains. Really all u r doing is burning yourself out. I would wait to train that hard after you've got some solid training years under your belt.

Make sure your protien intake is high!

Are you trying to bulk up?

[ndnguy85]

little overzealous in your benching endeavors if u ask me. If your gonna do pyramids, cut it down to 3 sets (12, 10,8 (for starters)). or you could 5x5 it for some good strength gains. Really all u r doing is burning yourself out. I would wait to train that hard after you've got some solid training years under your belt.

Make sure your protien intake is high!

Are you trying to bulk up?

well i started couple of years ago. but i have spent majority of the time cutting. what happens is once i lose the fat..then something happens where i get busy with school or i just stop going or i attempt a bulk..haha. and then i get motivated to get back into shape and starts cutting all over again.

i have done max-ot with great results in terms of strength. HST didnt quite yield the results i was looking for. maybe i should have did more sets but i didnt want to stray too far from the program since they recommended 1-2 sets.

considering all i do is 1 exercise for 5 sets 2x a week and not to failure (rep or two short)..i dont see how i am overtraining.

i think i already wore out any newbie gains i could have gotten a long time ago.

protein is ~200g a day. i weigh 140..lean mass is probably ~120.

ya i am trying to bulk up.

[drummaboyzl]

As far as "fat burners" go ECA/ECY is where it at.

DCP is a fat metabolizer, but dont get me wrong, i hear it works well.

I have been having great results with the ol' fashioned ECY stack. Losin lb's like its cool and keeps my energy high while im cuttin calories. I do kinda feel cracked out sometimes but i think the results are worth it. Also its alot cheaper and more effective than other fat burners.

I really think ECY is the way to go in the world of fat burners and it's what im gonna stick to whenever im on a cut.

thaO

ya and the ECY stack is caffeine based as well....


oh and heres what i was helped to come up with and i share with everyone who asks:
Week 1-3: 6-8 reps 4 sets- Muscle Mass
Week 4-6: 12-15 reps 3-4 sets - Definition
Week 7-9: 1-3 reps 5 sets - Power
Week 10-12: 8-10 reps 3 sets
*now those amount of sets are for the major lifts/muscle groups....dont overwork the minor ones

[thaOrleanyte]

eat horse heart 3x a day. You will consume it's soul and becometh a champion centaur!


j/j

[drummaboyzl]

eat horse heart 3x a day. You will consume it's soul and becometh a champion centaur!


j/j

was going to rep you for the funny comment but changed my mind when i saw your avi.

[ndnguy85]

so i found some products i wanted to try on my next cut lasting maximum of about 12 weeks.

DCP -- going to get 2 bottles of this for sure when i can

Lean Xtreme - want to at least get a bottle of this

Napalm - one of this for the last few weeks

Recreate -- still not sold on this

Reduction - want to try this also

Leviathan Reloaded - def want to try this

Green Tea - not sure on where to add this since of the products have something similar to it added

CLA - not sure

any advice on what and how long to stack some of them?

[dsade]

so i found some products i wanted to try on my next cut lasting maximum of about 12 weeks.

DCP -- going to get 2 bottles of this for sure when i can

you can run DCP for 2-3 months straight before taking a break

Lean Xtreme - want to at least get a bottle of this

best used in cycles of 4 weeks

Napalm - one of this for the last few weeks

You got it...last few weeks.

Recreate -- still not sold on this

Reduction - want to try this also

not sure on these

Leviathan Reloaded - def want to try this

stacks infinitely well with DCP, and can be run as well 1-2 months.

Green Tea - not sure on where to add this since of the products have something similar to it added

You can and should run this as a staple

CLA - not sure

good stuff at 6 grams a day

[ndnguy85]

you can run DCP for 2-3 months straight before taking a break

best used in cycles of 4 weeks

You got it...last few weeks.

not sure on these

stacks infinitely well with DCP, and can be run as well 1-2 months.

You can and should run this as a staple
good stuff at 6 grams a day

wow good info.

dcp/LR - first 4 weeks
dcp/LX - next 4
dcp/napalm - last weeks

continous - green tea, and cla

how am i coming along?

[dsade]

wow good info.

dcp/LR - first 4 weeks
dcp/LX - next 4
dcp/napalm - last weeks

continous - green tea, and cla

how am i coming along?

Looks like an excellent stack...running the LX towards the end of your cut will help preserve muscle, too.

[ndnguy85]

Looks like an excellent stack...running the LX towards the end of your cut will help preserve muscle, too.

oh ok. i wasnt sure if i should add the lx in the beginning or end..but now i know.

in that case it's probably best to do this.

dcp/LR - first 8 weeks
dcp/LX/napalm - finishing weeks

continous - green tea, and CLA

other products like recreate..i just can't convince myself to spend 40 bucks on that. i hate over advertisement and hype. always a let down for me. "23 ways to burn fat"...youtube videos of guys reading scripts etc.

all i have is about 10lbs to lose to get to a six pack..so i am looking forward to starting this as soon as my activate/stoked bulk is done.

[dsade]

oh ok. i wasnt sure if i should add the lx in the beginning or end..but now i know.

in that case it's probably best to do this.

dcp/LR - first 8 weeks
dcp/LX/napalm - finishing weeks

continous - green tea, and CLA

other products like recreate..i just can't convince myself to spend 40 bucks on that. i hate over advertisement and hype. always a let down for me. "23 ways to burn fat"...youtube videos of guys reading scripts etc.

all i have is about 10lbs to lose to get to a six pack..so i am looking forward to starting this as soon as my activate/stoked bulk is done.

I agree with this stack...should be VERY pleased.

[thaOrleanyte]

was going to rep you for the funny comment but changed my mind when i saw your avi.

wtf???

[drummaboyzl]

oh ok. i wasnt sure if i should add the lx in the beginning or end..but now i know.

in that case it's probably best to do this.

dcp/LR - first 8 weeks
dcp/LX/napalm - finishing weeks

continous - green tea, and CLA

other products like recreate..i just can't convince myself to spend 40 bucks on that. i hate over advertisement and hype. always a let down for me. "23 ways to burn fat"...youtube videos of guys reading scripts etc.

all i have is about 10lbs to lose to get to a six pack..so i am looking forward to starting this as soon as my activate/stoked bulk is done.

i lost 10 lbs and 2% bf in a month with REDuction and VERY strict diet =D

..just saying. i can vouch for that one
best of luck with your stack

[ndnguy85]

i lost 10 lbs and 2% bf in a month with REDuction and VERY strict diet =D

..just saying. i can vouch for that one
best of luck with your stack

it all depends on how my first 4 weeks with dcp/lr goes. do you recommend reduction with dcp? or just run it stand alone for 4 weeks.

[EasyEJL]

i lost 10 lbs and 2% bf in a month with REDuction and VERY strict diet =D

..just saying. i can vouch for that one
best of luck with your stack

unless u weighed 500lbs to start with thats not exactly attractive it means that to loose 3-4 labs of fat you also lost 6-7 lbs of lean mass.....

[Steveoph]

I agree with this stack...should be VERY pleased.

Any word on when your next shipment of DCP should be hitting NP? Had a few queries on this dsade.