Thanks Boro, as always you offer good advice and encouragement.

i decided to cut my recreate back to 1am 1pm due to app supp issues while taking full dose. am i wasting my time on it then?

I hope I have your issue next week ambulldog!

After 8 weeks off ReCreate, and about 5 months off Anabolic Pump - Im hitting the 6-pack stack.

My workouts will be 4am. Breakdown Supps:

Week 1:

Cissus x 1
ReCreate x 2
SuperSap x 3 ('00')
1-C x1 ('00')
1x Jack3d

intra: 35g BCAAs 5g Mono 5g Jack3d (intraWO-Jack3d baby!)

postWO: NeoVar x4, PSLin (bulk capped) x1

0500:50g Oatmeal w. 40g WPI 25g WMS shake

other meals: 0800 1100 1400 1600 1830

1500hrs 2x ReCreate 1x Cissus

Tapered CHO intake throughout day (1-2 AP) + NeoVar x4 last CHO meal ~1600hrs

bedtime supps: 2x SuperSap 2 x 1-C 2x Cissus (1930)

Week 2 - add in 2x bolic throughout the day (1 preWO, 1 pre-bed)

Weights = 12x trisets, 1m rest, compound dominant 3x week
Cardio = boxing, circuits 2x week

Goals = recomp (bordering on cutting, not at the expensive of strength gains)
Protocol Run = 6 weeks

I have a AP question, is 2 a day ok or should I go 3 a day? The reason I ask is I only get 40g a carbs 2 meals a day, breakfast and my post workout meal. I could try to add some carbs to my lunch ut I am trying to cut.

Also I do my morning cardio at 0330 and I don't eat breakfast until 0600 when should I take my first doss of Recreate/DCP right now I take them at about 0530 with my AP.

Originally Posted by Jaegernaut

I have a AP question, is 2 a day ok or should I go 3 a day? The reason I ask is I only get 40g a carbs 2 meals a day, breakfast and my post workout meal. I could try to add some carbs to my lunch ut I am trying to cut.

Also I do my morning cardio at 0330 and I don't eat breakfast until 0600 when should I take my first doss of Recreate/DCP right now I take them at about 0530 with my AP.

While I am not an expert on the topic, I am responding based on the directions, and advice given to me by the experts. If you were doing the fasted training routine, then you would take the supps upon rising. If not, then take them 15 mins prior to your breakfast. I hope this helps. Oh btw, as advised, for best results, try to take AP 15 mins before eating, with that being said, consider taking your AP at 0545 instead of 0530. Post your whole meal plan and workout plan with times, so Mullet or Borobulker can offer more precise advice.

Originally Posted by tribaltek

I hope I have your issue next week ambulldog!

it was about week 3 where i noticed i didnt want to eat. cravings were gone for sure, but i also had to eat by the clock because i wasnt hungry at all. that was a little too much for me. the 1 and 1 seems much better. no cravings for carbs at all but still good app

Ok guys, update to my mid day lethargy issue: I am not sure what the science is behind the dosing protocol, but here is how I changed it to suit me. If this is wrong for some scientific reason that could affect me negatively, please let me know. I have only tried this today, will follow up tomorrow. I got rid of the first thing in the am RC; I still took the AP. I took another AP, and 2 RC at 1145, so far so good, no lethargic feeling. This might just be a band aid to an underlying issue. I still took 2 PF 1 hr after breakfast, will see how things go for the rest of the day. Please let me know if this dosing scheme is ok or not. Today is my off day for the gym, how should I take my next dosage of PF and RC? Usually I take 2 PF and 2 RC 30 mins before gym.

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Very nice.

Hey Casey, are the changes I made in my dosing scheme ok to continue?

Originally Posted by ABNRanger

Ok guys, update to my mid day lethargy issue: I am not sure what the science is behind the dosing protocol, but here is how I changed it to suit me. If this is wrong for some scientific reason that could affect me negatively, please let me know. I have only tried this today, will follow up tomorrow. I got rid of the first thing in the am RC; I still took the AP. I took another AP, and 2 RC at 1145, so far so good, no lethargic feeling. This might just be a band aid to an underlying issue. I still took 2 PF 1 hr after breakfast, will see how things go for the rest of the day. Please let me know if this dosing scheme is ok or not. Today is my off day for the gym, how should I take my next dosage of PF and RC? Usually I take 2 PF and 2 RC 30 mins before gym.

This honestly looks fine. I want a second opinion by Mullet or Strat but the lethargy could be from the increase in thyroid function/output caused by Recreate. If it is working better for you in the above schedule, then by all means continue. The biggest thing you will find is lack of additional energy and/or appetite suppression prior to your first dose of Recreate. Other than that, I see no major issues.

On your off days you can dose 2PF, 1 RC between your lunch and afternoon snack or a tad later OR you could use this as an off day from PowerFULL. Be sure not to dose Recreate closer than 4 or 5 hours to bed time.

You are right about one thing, there some appetite suppression that lasted a loooong time. But, that is ok, because I have my body on a timer, I still ate. The energy lasted a long time as well, I did not take another RC later in the day. Thanks for the input; I will keep you informed of my progress. Other than the taste, why do you like ATW (all the whey) so much?

Originally Posted by ABNRanger

Other than the taste, why do you like ATW (all the whey) so much?

Honestly, that is the only reason aside from price.

i started my six pack stack on saturday and also picked up some jacked. monday night after my work out i blew up the toilet and then again this morning. i dont feel sick or think i have a virus/bug, was wondering if anyone else has had this problem. also my post workout meal was chicken enchilada with flour tortilla, lowfat refried beans, lowfat cheese, hot salsa, chili powder, green peppers and wheat germ.

Originally Posted by svthidef

i started my six pack stack on saturday and also picked up some jacked. monday night after my work out i blew up the toilet and then again this morning. i dont feel sick or think i have a virus/bug, was wondering if anyone else has had this problem. also my post workout meal was chicken enchilada with flour tortilla, lowfat refried beans, lowfat cheese, hot salsa, chili powder, green peppers and wheat germ.

some people have reported stomach discomfort from Anabolic Pump, but it could also be ther forskolin in ReCreate. Or, the chilli???

I would test each component of the 6-pack stack to see what the culprit may be.

Sorry guys, I meant to start Monday but wasn't quite ready. Should be starting tomorrow!

ya jakell my stomach has been fine, but the other end just kinda went in to over drive.

Originally Posted by svthidef

ya jakell my stomach has been fine, but the other end just kinda went in to over drive.

Pick up a high quality pro-biotic product. As JP said, it could be one of two things, the Coleus Forskohlii in Recreate or Anabolic-Pump.

Either way, it is always recommended to run a pro-biotic product.

Got my AP and Recreate yesterday, so I'll post a journal ASAP. I do have some questions though on timing:

I typically have 3 PRO + CHO meals during my day, so I was thinking about taking AP in the following manner:

9:15am 1 AP then 15-20 min later
9:30am Meal 1 PRO + CHO

12:30pm Meal 2 PRO + FAT

3:30pm Meal 3 PRO + FAT

5:15pm 1 AP then 15-20 min later
5:30pm Meal 4 PRO + CHO

1 Hour later Workout

7:45pm 1 AP then 15-20 min later
8:00pm Meal 5 PRO + CHO (PWO shake or meal)

11:00pm Meal 6 PRO + FAT

I guess the main question is the timing of AP between Meal 4 and 5 which is approx. 3 hours. Is that too short?

Originally Posted by kibrood09

Got my AP and Recreate yesterday, so I'll post a journal ASAP. I do have some questions though on timing:

I typically have 3 PRO + CHO meals during my day, so I was thinking about taking AP in the following manner:

9:15am 1 AP then 15-20 min later
9:30am Meal 1 PRO + CHO

12:30pm Meal 2 PRO + FAT

3:30pm Meal 3 PRO + FAT

5:15pm 1 AP then 15-20 min later
5:30pm Meal 4 PRO + CHO

1 Hour later Workout

7:45pm 1 AP then 15-20 min later
8:00pm Meal 5 PRO + CHO (PWO shake or meal)

11:00pm Meal 6 PRO + FAT

I guess the main question is the timing of AP between Meal 4 and 5 which is approx. 3 hours. Is that too short?

Welcome on board...This looks great! I like your timing 100%. I see no issues.

True Story:

I have a 7 day vitamin dispenser where each slot holds 3 Adipo X, 2 Recreate, 1 AP and 2 DCP. When my crack of dawn alarm goes off, I roll over, pop open a slot half awake, take my pills and lay there for about 2 snooze cycles, then the stim kicks in and I wake up.

Yesterday, I guess I was asleep enough to have accidentally taken two full slots. My mouth did feel like it contained more cargo then usual, but I must have been too asleep to notice. Thus, yesterday morning I took 6 Adipo X, 4 Recreate, 2 AP and 4 DCP, along with the 3 mg Yohimbine from the T-911. Needless to say I had a headache and felt like I was dying.

Originally Posted by VolcomX311

True Story:

I have a 7 day vitamin dispenser where each slot holds 3 Adipo X, 2 Recreate, 1 AP and 2 DCP. When my crack of dawn alarm goes off, I roll over, pop open a slot half awake, take my pills and lay there for about 2 snooze cycles, then the stim kicks in and I wake up.

Yesterday, I guess I was asleep enough to have accidentally taken two full slots. My mouth did feel like it contained more cargo then usual, but I must have been too asleep to notice. Thus, yesterday morning I took 6 Adipo X, 4 Recreate, 2 AP and 4 DCP, along with the 3 mg Yohimbine from the T-911. Needless to say I had a headache and felt like I was dying.

Holy **** bud... Unscheduled carb-up? haha

i think my body is getting used to the AP now. what is a probiotics use for? and do you think i would need it my stomach is fine but for those first 2 days it just felt like someone had slipped me "super colon blow" like in the van wilder movie/

Originally Posted by svthidef

i think my body is getting used to the AP now. what is a probiotics use for? and do you think i would need it my stomach is fine but for those first 2 days it just felt like someone had slipped me "super colon blow" like in the van wilder movie/

I believe probiotics helps you absorb nutrients better. I could be wrong.

OK guys - Prime/Sixpack stack log is up - It’s Prime time for a Sixpack (my 28 week cutting log)

Originally Posted by borobulker

Welcome on board...This looks great! I like your timing 100%. I see no issues.

Thanks for the feedback!

Obviously, if my schedule were always like that I'd be laughing, but work tends to get a little crazy a times. As such I have some questions that would help me make some on the spot adjustments when necessary:

1. Is there an upper limit to the amount of carbs AP can handle at once? When would a double dose be advisable?

2. Is there a time frame between doses where one should consider another dose of AP if another carb meal was eaten? In other words, if my plans change and I have to have another carb meal how long after my last dose of AP should I consider another pill to 'cover' me?

3. Any issue with 4 doses in a day? Right now my schedule fits the 3 recommended doses, but there are days when I'm up for a longer time frame.

Thanks in advance for any response.

Originally Posted by VolcomX311

True Story:

I have a 7 day vitamin dispenser where each slot holds 3 Adipo X, 2 Recreate, 1 AP and 2 DCP. When my crack of dawn alarm goes off, I roll over, pop open a slot half awake, take my pills and lay there for about 2 snooze cycles, then the stim kicks in and I wake up..

I do the same thing, but pre-load my supps into an old protein powder scoop. Alarm goes off, wash caps down with a little BCAAs and snooze until the stims kick in

I had some stomach discomfort the first 2-3 days when taking the A.P. It went away though.

I never had stomach discomfort, but I did have some Anabolic Dumps initially