I ve been reading about transdermals. Is it possible to use penerate instead of phlo to make a trans. If i add some ba to dissolve the powder completely and a hot water bath or just stick with the gel? I ask because i have penerate.
I asked this same question in the Primordial Performance thread and was told yes, it will work just fine, that the respondant had a friend that was doing just that with TNE and Tren and loving it. Just make sure not to oversaturate and follow the directions on the Nutra/PP page.
to be a little more clear...will penetrate work with a bold or a test base?
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Test base is TNE--testosterone no ester.
Works fine for 4AD, 19Nor and 1Test so it should be fine for TNE.
anything special i have to do to dissolve it?
Warm it in some hot water, add powder in a little at a time and shake shake shake.
what about the absorption rate about 40% with pene? thinking about make it at 125mg/ml
I don't think you can make it that strong--check the product pages, Nutraplanet or PP.
think i would get pretty good gains with an absorption rate of 30-40% at 100mg..... Which means i probably will have to use a 3rd of the bottle to make it at 100mg.
I made a TB TD recently using phlo at 100mg concentration and it works GREAT. You need to grind it down in a ceramic mortar and pestle (don't try to skimp on this...you WILL have tiny chunks left unabsorbed on your skin if you do). Transfer this to a pyrex bowl over warm water (double boiler style) and dissolve. DMSO works WONDERS for this, and 10mL should suffice, without giving you garlic stink. Then incorporate into the penetrate (although my understanding was that phlo works better, which is why I went with that). Then, just to completely eliminate the smell of DMSO, I added 2mL of tea tree oil, and now the stuff actually smells nice.
Average absorption is estimated at 30% at best, but more like 35% if you use DMSO. I apply 1 and 1/4 mL twice daily for a total of 250mg ed. Times 7 days, that 1750mg, at 35% absorption you're looking at around 600mg weekly.
then i should just go with the phlogel. The only reason i was going to use the pene was because i had an old bottle. But i see the changed it now to more of a cream. And i see the phlogel can be mixed at a higher rate..
Did you just start it any before and after pics or a log?
I'll def add this to future cycles of whatever I run.
see i was thinking about making a tne trans. But not sure what to stack it with. I want more of a dry lean look. I was thinking about possible a boldenone and i have "var" but i dont know if its var. Probably because i tried a var only cycle, seemed a little leaner but who knows.
Personally, I've been considering for some time making a masteron TD at 100mg/mL. You could do a 6 week run with that of 250mg ed for a total of 1750, which would absorb at about 600mg. That's a nice amount of mast, and it don't get much leaner than that! I haven't really found any info from others on it, and I've been meaning to check the MW to see if it's feasible, but I keep forgetting.
i dont think it will work because it has an ester.. Only if you drop the ester then it might work. and the weight of that is 360.