Training on Juice
- 09-04-2009, 10:04 AM
Training on Juice
Hey dont chew me out for this but I just need opinions on this. When on something (Test E):
1) What should your workout look like as far as sets per muscle group:
2) Is overtraining really a concern?
3) Do you still have to keep in mind the basis of your genetics (hard gainer-ecto) and know that your body might take less to breakdown or do you throw all this out the window when on something?
4) What is the best split for growth?
5) Is it bad to do to many compound lifts in a week...example: Squat and Deadlift in the same week
6) Is Smith Machine okay for all powerlifts such as Squat, Bench, Deadlift due to the fact that its safe and provides stability.
Please help with your suggestions
- 09-04-2009, 10:17 AM
DONT ROID! question 1-4 are dumb and stupid
5. YES ppl do it without roids so ur safe there.
6. man up and use free weight
09-04-2009, 10:22 AM
09-04-2009, 10:25 AM
They're basic questions that, if you don't know them, you shouldn't be using/considering using AAS.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
09-04-2009, 10:29 AM
09-04-2009, 10:31 AM
09-04-2009, 10:37 AM
09-04-2009, 10:40 AM
M.Ed. Ex Phys
09-04-2009, 11:50 AM
I agree with Rodja...
Spend some more time with the basics before jumping on Test
how long have you been lifting? and what are your numbers lookin like?
SFW and GFH
09-05-2009, 12:32 AM
09-05-2009, 12:51 AM
09-06-2009, 11:29 PM
09-06-2009, 11:42 PM
Wow it looks like every ******* on AM crawled out to give you ****. What a bunch of ****s. As for your questions, nothing wrong with looking for knowledge. Genetics will always come into play and if you're on gear then I wouldn't worry about overtraining. Just use any old split and lift heavy. As far as compound lifts, I would do squat, deads, and bench all at least once in a seven day period. I wouldn't deadlift on a smith machine but squatting and benching are perfectly fine. Cutler, Kovacs and a lot of other good bodybuilders all use smith machines and get huge.
If the guys on here are being *******s it's just because they are elitist douchebags with no better way to waste their time, don't worry about them just make your gains and keep lifting. Good luck with your cycle.
09-07-2009, 01:08 AM
Please go back to bb.com and take your 24 posts with you.
09-07-2009, 01:31 AM
09-07-2009, 01:37 AM
09-07-2009, 04:07 AM
09-07-2009, 11:48 AM
09-07-2009, 12:49 PM
Wow, you guys really hurt my feelings. Honestly, if the kid is going to take gear then it's not like you're going to do much to stop him, it's his choice and I'm not going to be the one to judge him. He obviously came to the site to look for advice and if you don't want to give it then don't bother.
Rubberring, I thought that I had gotten away from name calling when I left Middle School but apparently once an ******* always an *******.
I though that this site would have people a little more mature than yourselves but I guess I was wrong, looks to me like a bunch of keyboard warriors with nothing better to do than try to feel superior. I hope that it works out for you guys and you have a great life.
Liftw8t, maybe you should look for advice somewhere else where people actually want to help out the younger kids. It seems that this is a place reserved for guys who already know everything.
09-07-2009, 01:36 PM
09-07-2009, 02:20 PM
09-07-2009, 03:05 PM
firstly, i 100% agree with rodja here. if you don't know most of these things, you shouldn't be injecting. you've ran a cycle of epi before, so again, you should know most of this stuff (how your body recovers, etc). keep in mind that regardless of what anabolic you're on, without the caloric surplus to put on mass, you won't. think of an anabolic as a spectacular nutrient repartitioner with great muscle building potential.
dumbells are best for stabilizer muscles, barbells the second, and smith the third. each time you use less stabilizer muscles, the more weight you will lift - at the sacrifice of building those stabilizers. if you actually want to USE your newfound strength for anything applicable outside the gym, make sure you're using dumbells and barbells.
i think (and agree) with every poster in this thread. when looking at question 5, we're left with the impression that you don't know how to train naturally. IMO you should spend some time learning how to do that first, so when you do cycle, you can make the most of it.
the flaming on this thread is because we've seen so many people say "i'm a hardgainer, so i'm going to cycle compound &*^#$" which makes absolutely no sense. what then happens, is they take compound &*^#$ and loose 75-90% of their gains in PCT, because they don't know how to eat, or how to train. if you can't gain naturally, you won't gain unnaturally.
Gaining mass in a nutshell (a big nutshell)
or other applicable threads i'm too lazy to search for.
09-07-2009, 03:37 PM
I dont see any overblown or immaturity at all considering the OP's situation. And considering the OP's "immature" 4th post reply, all i see is an ignorant high school kid who wants to get big fast, use ass/ph's as a crutch, b/c he's too fukin lazy to do his research. And anyone who condones all of that (you)... is just as dumbfounded as him, and the reason for all the current bans on these compounds. The only "internet warrior" I see here is you.
So once again,... by all means head over to bb.com, and you can flame all day with underage, inexperienced users who wonder if pct is a good idea when they are half way through their 12 week cycle of m-drol.
Good day sir.
09-07-2009, 03:45 PM
09-07-2009, 07:21 PM
Well, I was hoping that maybe you'd be able to count the number of asterisks and see if you knew any choice words that had that many letters in it, guess that would have been too difficult. Seems like maybe you need a little work on your vocabulary.
This obviously isn't going anywhere, I'm glad that suncloud at least saw fit to give some real advice. I'm done trying to fight you guys over the internet, it's kind of lame. The Willy Wonka video was pretty funny though.
09-07-2009, 07:40 PM
09-07-2009, 07:42 PM
This thread is only going to go downhill. Kudos to Suncloud for bothering to answer all the questions. To the OP, take the advice, really think about your training and which ergogenic aids you need, then do a lot of searching/reading since all the answers are out there. Let's just simmer down guys; the writing is on the wall.
09-07-2009, 08:14 PM
Good response Suncloud! Well Done! I believe Suncloud's response type are more productive in educating and motivating a young NOOB although I also want to acknowledge the others for having the best of intentions!
09-08-2009, 12:50 AM
09-08-2009, 02:00 AM
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