which form of creatine is best?
- 04-22-2008, 02:44 AM
And against MCC (post by Ingenium, from another site)
Mg2+-creatine chelate and a low-dose creatine supplementation regimen improve exercise performance.
Selsby JT, DiSilvestro RA, Devor ST.
Section of Sport and Exercise Sciences, The Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohio 43210, USA.
We tested the hypotheses that, compared with a placebo group or creatine (Cr) group, a Mg(2+)-Cr chelate group would demonstrate improvements in the 1 repetition maximum (1RM) on the bench press and be able to perform more work at 70% of the 1RM for the bench press. Thirty-one weight-trained men were randomly assigned in a double-blind manner to a placebo group (multidextran), a Cr group (2.5 g of Cr daily), or a Mg(2+)-Cr group (2.5 g of Cr daily). Baseline data were collected for the bench press 1RM and maximal work completed during a fatigue set at 70% of the 1RM. Following 10 days of Cr supplementation, follow-up tests were completed for the dependent variables. Groups were similar when the change in 1RM was evaluated either absolutely or relatively. Both the Cr and the Mg(2+)-Cr groups had significantly larger increases in work, both absolutely and relatively, when compared with the placebo group. Partial support for the hypothesis suggests that low doses of Cr are effective at increasing fiber Cr content, and consequently, performance. Further, the Cr and Mg(2+)-Cr groups were similar in both performance tests, suggesting that the proposed mechanism of entry is no better than the conventional method when 2.5 g of Cr is administered and performance is measured as work. This study raises the possibility that a low dose of Cr may be an effective means of enhancing performance after short-term ingestion.
- 04-22-2008, 10:35 AM
04-22-2008, 10:54 AM
04-22-2008, 10:59 AM
04-24-2008, 01:29 PM
What the hell is Exceed? Who makes it? Never heard of it, so that's a bad sign in my book.
CM is the only creatine that works. The "bloat" is water retention, which is a sign that the creatine is helping increase your strength (intracellular water retention). No water retention = bunk product. If you're taking CEE and you think it increased your strength at all, I'd like to introduce you to a concept known as "placebo effect."
04-24-2008, 01:54 PM
creatine works, not for people with nat. high creatine levels but it works.
Also of the creatines u listed probably mono is the best gram for gram.
I think if you have to take more than 5g of a "super" creatine to see results then its no better than mono.
The creatine malate does add malic acid which helps atp, but gram for gram those are all basic creatines so u might as well go with the cheapest. For me I have to take 10g of mono to see any results but with the 10g a day come bloating so I dont use bulk mono.
04-24-2008, 05:28 PM
05-16-2008, 02:35 AM
05-16-2008, 02:38 AM
Five grams/ cycle......your body produces creatine naturally...just like anything else....you supplement it..your body reduces production.
05-19-2008, 12:05 AM
05-19-2008, 11:12 AM
06-10-2008, 11:43 PM
yeah i went with the creatine glucanate too. I just thought since i responded well to size on, ill buy crea gluc. in bulk from nutra. and see how it goes with some BA.
06-11-2008, 09:25 AM
06-14-2008, 05:59 PM
But nothing works if you don't move the weights hard!!
Also, anyone thinking any supp will get you to look like the Mr. O ads in the mags.... lol... they are all on roids.
07-01-2008, 12:22 PM
ive tried bulk di-creatine malate, sizeon, & green mag... recently switched to beverly creatine select (mono + phosphates)
and a week into the mono it i hit a personal best on the my incline bench & t-bar rows...
07-01-2008, 01:01 PM
sounds pretty good to me. i tried creatine gluconate and i can say, it helped me out minimally. I was on it for maybe 1 month and strength gains all around were about 10 pounds. i ordered mono 3 days ago and I'm hoping to see better results. but as always, i believe the best strength gains ONLY come from the food that you eat (i.e A LOT).
07-01-2008, 08:52 PM
07-21-2008, 02:32 AM
09-06-2008, 12:29 PM
I always used Prolab Creatine which used Creapure Creatine and i think it was written on the label somewhere. The last one i bought i got minimal results, aside from stomach ache so i checked the label and there was nothing saying they use Creapure anymore so just make sure it is Creapure and it will be on the label if that's what they use.
After trying almost all other Creatines and different strategies on using them i got best results taking a heaping spoon of Creapure with a heaping spoon of BCAA's an hour or so before a workout and sip water constantly over the next few hours.
Combining it with simple sugars made it work quicker and i got a lot fuller but it also lead to an increase in waste size as well which isn't the look i'm after.
09-07-2008, 05:56 AM
09-08-2008, 04:37 PM
It seems clear that mono is the most favored, so what would you say is the best brand of mono. I've never tried mono other than on my off days from size on but want to give it a try. Size on works great for me but its a little pricey.
09-09-2008, 08:15 AM
09-09-2008, 04:05 PM
So is the prolabs micronized? If not is there a creatine that uses creapure that is. Non micronized gives me a stomach ache.
09-09-2008, 06:55 PM
I was looking for it in the ingredient listing. It should be printed there to though. Creapure is what a lot of people look for so i'd be putting it all over the place!!
09-10-2008, 12:08 AM
Size on did nothing for me that I could tell - definately not worth the price.
I've got some NeoVar recomp to try out, and if that's nothing flash then it's back to the tried and trusted mono
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