[ReaperX]

225 for reps isn't that big of a deal. That's not heavy.

[poacher]

Maybe not for you beast, but for some of us it is

[Big BAMA]

I have always followed the theory that it doesn't matter how much you lift if you can't lift it correctly.
That being said. I crap 225.

[poacher]

OOOooooch. That must hurt. Think I would rather lift it

[Fever]

Originally Posted by Iron Lungz

I like DiM-C and Mono combined. This works best for me. CEE is a waste of time, IMO. People complain about bloat with Mono, but luckily I have not had this side.

The "bloat" is due to the excess water retention caused by taking Creatine...and the whole point of taking it! So when people say that they don't get any bloat with CEE can you even say then that its actually working!?!?

Anyway that to one side CEE is bad news, what TripDog has said is bang on....watch your kidneys!!!

If your going to take it, Mono all the way, everytime!

[krazy]

Alright. I did a search and didnt find anything conclusive so Im posing it here..

Doesnt creatine **** your liver up?

As far as I remember, clinical trials resulted in finding that creatine supplementation -> creatinine and, bottom line, high creatinine are bad for your liver.

I dont understand how this process changed in the past few years...

Begin the flaming but keep it factual (ie gimmie some clinical studies supporting your claim).

[Lanbane]

The best form of creatine? Is Neovar.

[Fever]

Originally Posted by Lanbane

The best form of creatine? Is Neovar.

CEE is bad news...I wouldn't advise people to take anything with it in!

[Lanbane]

Originally Posted by Fever

CEE is bad news...I wouldn't advise people to take anything with it in!

oh. ok.

Well you guys heard the man.


P.S.~ The reformulation of Neovar doesn't have CEE, but I still disagree with your stance. To each his own.

[Fever]

Originally Posted by Lanbane

oh. ok.

Well you guys heard the man.


P.S.~ The reformulation of Neovar doesn't have CEE, but I still disagree with your stance. To each his own.

Of course, your totally welcome to disagree, I'd just rather pass on the correct information to the members that are lead to believe you need all the fancy Creatine formulas that include this and do that!

Bottom line, find a product that is pure creatine, no other ingredients. If one serving is a 70cc scoop then you're wasting your money on marketing from their "advanced delivery systems".

Raw creatine currently comes from three countries: China, Germany and the United States. Germany produces some of the purest creatine on the market, so find a product that displays the creapure logo.

Summary
1) Creapure logo
2) Creatine monohydrate and little or nothing else
3) best price you can find

Its really that simple!

[poacher]

I have had ZERO results taking craetine without a delivery system. I have tried creapure to. I swore i was done with creatine but was talked into trying Size on. It is working for me. I wish just creatine Mono worked for me.

[Deccadick]

this discussion topic has been beaten to death so many times.

[krazy]

Originally Posted by Deccadick

this discussion topic has been beaten to death so many times.

Die, discussion topic! Die!

[poacher]

As soon as you admit i am right

[TheNinja]

Originally Posted by poacher

I have had ZERO results taking craetine without a delivery system. I have tried creapure to. I swore i was done with creatine but was talked into trying Size on. It is working for me. I wish just creatine Mono worked for me.

I'm not disagreeing, but have you ever tried taken creatine monohydrate with some simple sugars like grape juice, dextrose, or waxy maize starch? It's my understanding that most of these "delivery systems" are just simple sugars anyway. Just a suggestion if you're looking to save money.

[poacher]

No I havent tried it like you mentioned. That looks like it is worth a try. Appreciate that tip

[EctoPower]

Originally Posted by krazy

Alright. I did a search and didnt find anything conclusive so Im posing it here..

Doesnt creatine **** your liver up?

As far as I remember, clinical trials resulted in finding that creatine supplementation -> creatinine and, bottom line, high creatinine are bad for your liver.

I dont understand how this process changed in the past few years...

Begin the flaming but keep it factual (ie gimmie some clinical studies supporting your claim).

There is absolutely zero evidence of creatine monohydrate causing liver damage in strength training athletes. Any studies (from a LONG time ago, mind you) that showed any kind of internal distress from creatine supplementation were involving elderly subjects in hospital beds. So the results don't apply.