B, Jay, Nothing to see here, I got this.
I picked up on the BJ thing.
I cannot read some pages of this thread at work because of the security settings on my PC.The page you requested has been blocked because it contains a banned word. URL = The #1 Cortisol Blocker
Rest assured that if I come in here and I find out that the shinanigans has continued after you guys received a "BJ warning"...your mothers won't recognize you when I get done with you.
"Just wait 'til your father gets home"
Serioulsy, I hope not to find that it has, as I will be very disappointed...at the least. This goes to ALL members, sponsor alike.
I have used Endo for those who actually want some feedback
I actually used pf's test recovery as pct that included the endo-amp, , and sustain alpha
It was a great lineup as far as I am concerned. My hair loss that started during the end of the cycle stopped dead in it's tracks during pct, Libido went through the roof, balls were bigger then when I started my cycle.
I know it might be all mumbo jumbo, but I felt a real sense of well being. No mood swings, deep restfull sleep, just calm in general.
the start of my cycle I was 201lbs, by the end I was 219lbs, and a full month after I am sitting pretty at 218lbs, and fairly lean.
The only complaint was the mixability, I just put it in my mouth and chased it down with water.
I've used endoamp. Liked it, even the taste didn't bother me, was a smooth texture. I just scooped it right into my mouth just like with toco-8.
It's probably something I will incorporate into a longterm stack with toco-8.
I might try it this summer again alongside dermatherm and then incorporate it for longterm use. It's one of those supps that's safe to use as a staple, and in this sense it's in a different league than other cort supps which are hormonal and not safe to use lfor extended periods (or as staple supps). They each have their place.
I look forward to the end of childish ranting and very much the resolution and agreement on the subject. I am sure we can get there with two quality company leaders in the industry!
Forgive my tone but this kind of back n forth with no end in sight P!sses me off
gibbob2, what kind of cycle did you do prior to using the stack
and thanks for feedbacks to others
Great thread here.
A little bump for the #1 Cortisol Blocker
Safety and pharmacokinetic study with escalating doses of 3-acetyl-7-oxo-dehydroepiandrosterone in healthy male volunteers.
OBJECTIVES: To evaluate the safety and pharmacokinetics of 3-acetyl-7-oxo-DHEA (3beta-acetoxyandrost-5-ene-7,17-dione) given orally. DESIGN: A randomized, double blind, placebo-controlled, escalating dose study. SETTING: The Chicago Center for Clinical Research. PARTICIPANTS: Twenty-two healthy men. STUDY METHOD: The participants received placebo (n = 6) or 3-acetyl-7-oxo-DHEA (n = 16) at 50 mg/d for 7 days followed by a 7-day washout; 100 mg/d for 7 days followed by a 7-day washout; and 200 mg/d for 28 days. OUTCOME MEASURES: Safety parameters, evaluated at each dose level, included measurement of total testosterone, free testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, estradiol, cortisol, thyroxin and insulin levels. Analyses for 7-oxo-DHEA-3beta-sulfate (DHEA-S), the only detectable metabolic product of the administered steroid, were conducted on plasma drawn from all subjects at 0.25, 0.5, 1, 2, 4, 6 and 12 hours after the final 100 mg dose of 3beta-acetyl-7-oxo-DHEA. RESULTS: There were no differences in the clinical laboratory values or in reported minor adverse experiences, between treatment and placebo groups. In general, blood hormone concentrations were unaffected by the treatment with 3beta-acetyl-7-oxo-DHEA and remained within the normal range. No changes in vital signs, blood chemistry or urinalysis occurred during treatment with 3beta-acetyl-7-oxo-DHEA compared to placebo. The administered steroid was not detected in the blood but was rapidly converted to 7-oxo-DHEA-S, the concentrations of which were proportional to dose. This steroid sulfate did not accumulate; plasma concentrations 12 hours after the 3beta-acetyl-7-oxo-DHEA dose at 7 and 28 days on the 200 mg/d dose were 15.8 and 16.3 microg/L respectively. The mean time to peak plasma level of 7-oxo-DHEA-S was 2.2 hours; the mean half life was 2.17 hours. The apparent clearance averaged 172 L/h, and the apparent mean volume of distribution was 540 L. CONCLUSION: These results indicate that 3beta-acetyl-7-oxo-DHEA is safe and well tolerated in normal healthy men at doses up to 200 mg/d for 4 weeks.
Just so you guys know EndoAmp is now coming in a different container. We should have some new pics up on the site very soon.
bump, interesting debate and a good read
eat a lot a fatty fish (salmon) or take fish oil capsules...they contain phospholipids our body uses to produce phosphadyldserine all by itself..to the level we need..depending on the stress we apply...as it should be.....cortisol is also benficial and necessary and you dont want it lower in some ways ..while intense exercise will temporarily raise cortisol ..if the above nutrient are avail the body will have enough ps on its own and the levels will quickly return to normal. Good diet plus inexpensive (but quality) fish oil caps ..or soemthing that sabotages a beneficial hormone(see below) i know my choice. ...JMO....
BTW - this is what cortisol does...some pretty good benefits for our purposes..the body regulates itself perfectly without screwing with its benficial hormones....
Cortisol is very important for keeping humans alive. Cortisol is responsible for maintaining our ability to process sugars, maintain our blood pressure and react to stress and illness. Cortisol helps the body respond to stress. During times of stress, cortisol levels
increase and accelerate the breakdown of proteins to provide the fuel to maintain body functions. It acts as a physiological antagonist to insulin by promoting breakdown of carbohydrates, lipids, and proteins and so mobilizing energy reserves. In addition, immune and inflammatory cells have their responses to stress attenuated by cortisol. Cortisol is known to stimulate gluconeogenesis (creation of glucose) to ensure an adequate fuel supply. It also makes fatty acids available for metabolic use. It increases mobilization of free fatty acids, making them a more available energy source, and decreases glucose utilization, sparing it for the brain. Cortisol also acts as an anti-inflamatory agent. It depresses immune reactions, and increases the vasoconstriction caused by epinephrine.
BTW - if you read the above carefully most of the benfits of cortisol are essetail for our purposes...essential... the body will easily keep cortisol below catabolic levels regardless of stress applied as long as the nutrient i talked about above are present.
This is just my opinion on this phospholipid (PS)