New to Supplements, please help.
- 03-10-2008, 06:27 PM
there is a bad side though. When I want to put on weight it is tough. In order to gain weight, I have to eat a lot and lift heavy ... nothing else works. If I just eat ... no matter how much ... I just remain at the same weight.
- 03-10-2008, 07:39 PM
I have at least one or two days a week where I eat whatever I want to also. I believe that you have to allow yourself that for all that hard work you do over the week. MOST things in moderation are good.
To be 100% honest with you, when I was in college playing baseball I didn't care what I was eating and was in great shape just like you are talking about. I started researching on different eating establishments nutritional information and was totally shocked at how bad some of the things I was eating were. Things that I believed were good for me.
Some people just have gifted genetics. You are probably one of them, but just think how much more progress you could make with a decent diet on top of those supplements.
By the way how do you like the DRIVE. I have been wanting to try it.
03-10-2008, 08:16 PM
Really though, making changes to the diet is something to just continually work at. It doesn't mean you can't break from it on occasion, but having a stronger base diet will get you better results. If you normally have a scrambled 3 egg sandwich with bacon for breakfast on white toast, try 1 whole egg + 2 whites, on whole grain toast or a wrap, and try salsa to jazz the flavor instead of the bacon. Try ordering salmon instead of a steak, or mixed veggies instead of a potato. Brown rice instead of white, etc. Theres a lot of changes you can make a bit at time, and eventually as they each become habits (or you find things you really like) they will feel completely normal.
Weird as it may sound, I REALLY like having a tilapia fillet quick gridle fried with jamaican jerk seasoning (a dab of coconut oil to grease the griddle), quinoa cooked with goya sazon, and 2 eggs over easy for breakfast. I'd rather have that than most anything else. I make banana pecan pancakes now for my whole family using 1/3 quinoa flour, 1/3 soy and 1/3 whole wheat, coconut oil in place of corn oil, and stevia or any of the non sugar sweeteners. They like it, and I don't feel bad having 1 or 2 along with a 3 egg white omlet with fat free cheddar cheese
03-10-2008, 09:55 PM
03-10-2008, 10:29 PM
The Talapia recipie sounds good with the exception of the Talapia ( I am not a big seafood fan ). I might try it and substitute a big ole chicken breast.
03-10-2008, 10:41 PM
I mostly like it with fish since it seems so light that way. plus I buy the fish prepacked in frozen 4oz pieces, so its easy to thaw 1 at a time for myself to eat. since they are flash frozen in vacuum wrap, I can throw one in a sink with warm water for 10 minutes while I get the other stuff going and by then its thawed
The chicken breast I think would be better with a cajun spice
03-10-2008, 10:46 PM
03-10-2008, 11:16 PM
03-10-2008, 11:27 PM
both are fattier than chicken breasts, that's what gives the flavor. beef is great on a bulk but stick with lean cuts such as sirloin, not the ribeye.
03-10-2008, 11:41 PM
03-11-2008, 06:15 PM
03-11-2008, 06:18 PM
03-13-2008, 04:22 PM
Word. Although I like the round steaks because they're not as expensive as other cuts but good god they're good if they're broiled just right. This thread is making me dread my current cut even more. only 3 more weeks babay!!!
03-13-2008, 08:00 PM
you can take your GNC prodcuts back. Tell them the items you bought gave you GI problems and you felt very ill while taking them, due to their policy they have to take them back. Insider info ftw
03-27-2008, 11:10 AM
OK I think everyone is missing a point here too. If you want to get stronger when lifting you need some of the Fats and cholestorol in food. Namely in Red meat. And of course in moderation as well but if you are trying to bulk and get stronger that is what is gonna do it. You need the mix of fats,protein,and carbs. Besides that I agree wholeheartedly with what everyone else was saying.
03-27-2008, 11:57 AM
I agree with mostly what every1 is saying in here. When starting out w/ getting really serious about my nutrition and training i started by gradually adding in healthy foods in place of not so great choices. That way i didn't burn out and hate eating healthy right away. I feel balance is a key and that you should make sure you get healthy carbs, protein, and healthy fat with out neglecting any macro nutrient. With diet in place i feel one should start w/ basic supplementation if they feel they are ready like, poseidon, and creatine. Then move on to other things as i feel it is all a process of learning, adapting, and applying new knowledge with your new goals and needs.
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03-27-2008, 12:18 PM
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03-27-2008, 04:43 PM
I agree add in
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03-27-2008, 05:35 PM
03-27-2008, 08:27 PM
I like what most people have to say about the diet aspects of things. Making gradual changes is a great way to slowy ease your way into a process of behavioral change. Let's face it, a diet isn't a diet so much as it's a behavioral modification. I started out just switching cereals in High School. Went from eating fruity pebbles(RIP), to flax cereal.... and the process was on.
Once you get to a state in which you eat clean foods on a constant basis, it actually gets harder to cheat. Try eating clean for 2wks, and by clean I mean low sodium, moderate fat and moderate sugars. After two weeks, take you a trip to the Waffle House and have a grand waffle with all the syrup you can stand.
The physiological response I experienced from a similiar scenario really opened my eyes to how great healthy diet really is.
~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!
03-27-2008, 08:32 PM
03-28-2008, 08:25 AM
You're def. right about all of that. I don't mind eating the "healthy" way at all. I guess I'm lucky in the way I never liked salty foods too much. The only thing I'll put salt on is a potato and even then its a little bit of sea salt. The way I like to eat is naturally healthy, most of the time anyway. Who doesn't like a cheesesteak every once in awhile or some good pizza. Unless you're a vegan. I was fat in my early years of puberty and I made a decision that I never wanted to be that way again. Now I can't gain weight when I want to. so after all those years of eating foods that are good for you it becomes second nature. And it's exactly what you said Grimace, behavior modification. Sorry i can't make your name out and I see your avy and that's what I think of. Is it something lead to greatness?
but even still I like to enjoy some Fruity Pebbles every now and again just as much as the next guy. Or some Cap'n Crunch mmmmmm yummy.
04-02-2008, 11:18 PM
so i have taken your advice gotten my diet up to par (for some part). i have also stopped gettin so many supplements i have stuck to a protein powder and some glutamine. I have questions about the protein powder though. What is the best brand of protein powder that is on the market (by best i mean best value)?
04-03-2008, 08:57 AM
whatever you get cheapest per lb its hard to say for sure. There are sales that sometimes can take it down, like for instance in general i'd say All the Whey or Trueprotein (board sponsors) have some of the best pricing, but sometimes GNC or vitamin shoppe have a combination of coupons + sales that make a differences.
04-03-2008, 09:41 AM
i'd check out All The Whey, good pricing and free shipping + i've never seen a bad review of their flavors
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