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Old 02-13-2008, 01:11 PM   #1
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Old 02-13-2008, 01:30 PM   #2
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sounds interesting. i would like to hear some input on this from some other members, i might be adding this to the collection on my dresser
 
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  • Reduce The Number of Fat Cells

- I thought , once a fat cell always a fat cell (adipocyte). In that, you can reduce the amount of fat (triaglycerol) stored in a "fat" cell, but the cell will always remain.

Or am I wrong on this? (or reading it wrong).

Aside from that - looks good, and we even get a discount.
 



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Old 02-13-2008, 01:35 PM   #4
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The Gods must be smiling. Could this be the "Butt-Be-Gone" I have searched for?
 
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Old 02-13-2008, 01:39 PM   #5
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I will definitely be using this durring my cut, is this coming to Nutra in the near future?
 



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im looking for something to add to my fatloss stack and this could be it.
 
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idk if this is matters since its ethyl estered, but what isomer(is that the word im looking for?) would this cla be. I'm under the impression that the tonalin Cla is this kind used in the successful studies(not sure which isomer this is..). looks interesting though!
 
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  • Reduce The Number of Fat Cells

- I thought , once a fat cell always a fat cell (adipocyte). In that, you can reduce the amount of fat (triaglycerol) stored in a "fat" cell, but the cell will always remain.

Or am I wrong on this? (or reading it wrong).

Aside from that - looks good, and we even get a discount.
This caught my eye as well, would like to hear more about this aspect. If it kills fat cells then we are looking at a breakthrough of some sort.
 
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This caught my eye as well, would like to hear more about this aspect. If it kills fat cells then we are looking at a breakthrough of some sort.
yea if they could prove it thatd be amazing...i believe its possible but i can't remember how, i believe matt of Designer supplements talked about some crazy injection that does it(which he said he def didnt recommend) if i remember correctly...neways who wouldnt want to get rid of some fat cells lol
 
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:19 PM   #10
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  • Reduce The Number of Fat Cells

- I thought , once a fat cell always a fat cell (adipocyte). In that, you can reduce the amount of fat (triaglycerol) stored in a "fat" cell, but the cell will always remain.

Or am I wrong on this? (or reading it wrong).

Aside from that - looks good, and we even get a discount.
Its called adipocyte apoptosis, and TNF-a is the cytokine that leads to the dealth of fat cells. Fat cells constantly die and are recreated in the body, just like any other cell.

I think the whole saying of “you always have the same # of fat cells” is probably just incorrect high school anatomy jargon. I remember when my teacher used to tell us that we have the same number of muscle cells throughout our entire life too…

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My skepticism of the "fat cell destroying" line is also keeping me at bay from this product until there is some solid scientific backing...If there is one line of snake oil, the entire product may as well be...and by proxy, the company that sells it.
 
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:29 PM   #12
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My skepticism of the "fat cell destroying" line is also keeping me at bay from this product until there is some solid scientific backing...If there is one line of snake oil, the entire product may as well be...and by proxy, the company that sells it.
Here are a few reffs on the "fat cell destroying power" of CLA - (please see my last post)

Conjugated linoleic acid and obesity control: efficacy and mechanisms.
YW Wang and PJ Jones
Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord, August 1, 2004; 28(8): 941-55.

Conjugated linoleic acid supplementation reduces adipose tissue by apoptosis and develops lipodystrophy in mice.
Tsuboyama-Kasaoka N, et al.
Diabetes 2000; 49: 1534–1542.

Tumor necrosis factor alpha induces apoptosis of human adipose cells.
Prins JB, et al.
Diabetes 1997; 46: 1939–1944.
 



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Old 02-13-2008, 02:31 PM   #13
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idk if this is matters since its ethyl estered, but what isomer(is that the word im looking for?) would this cla be. I'm under the impression that the tonalin Cla is this kind used in the successful studies(not sure which isomer this is..). looks interesting though!
Yes its very similar to the tonalin brand CLA –

41% cis-9, trans-11
40% trans-10, cis-12
6% Palmitic acid
2.3% Stearic acid
10% Oleic acid

So your getting the ideal 50/50 mix of the two active isomers.

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Its called adipocyte apoptosis, and TNF-a is the cytokine that leads to the dealth of fat cells. Fat cells constantly die and are recreated in the body, just like any other cell.

I think the whole saying of “you always have the same # of fat cells” is probably just incorrect high school anatomy jargon. I remember when my teacher used to tell us that we have the same number of muscle cells throughout our entire life too…

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True, true, I do agree that the fat cells do indeed undergo mitosis (cell division) , however dont the fat cells secrete TNF-a ? From what I remember from class, TNF-a (Tumor necrosis factor - correct me if im wrong) can reside in fat cells and make them resistant to insulin..... correct? It is also involved in the immume system response to inflamation - but I have yet to come across any college, or study that states that it destroys fat cells?

Please correct me if im wrong here, as I cant find my a&p book to refer to TNf-alpha.

EDIT: checking your references..... interesting stuff!
 



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