Pumping Iron
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These products; Havoc and Epistane/Epidrol are supposed to be some good new supplements. What do you guys think? So few supplements actually work. The reality is that you could get a lot of dirty bulk real easy off of a $7 bottle of Creatine Monohydrate and 10,000 Calories per day. What the hell is in Havoc/Epistane? I'm taking a ****load of these and it might be doing something. Maybe not. Ever since the prohormone ban, there's been a flood of bull**** on the shelf for test boosters, so it's really hard to tell if the new stuff is any good either. Havoc appears to be O.K. I don't see anything amazing. I don't think I'll be gaining 20 lbs of pure muscle mass. Can these supplements hold a candle to taking real gear or what? I want to be Ronnie Coleman in a week, I will accept no substitute. Could you put that on the back of a box in great detail with scientific evidence stating double blind placebo trials proving that I will become Ronnie Coleman? That would really put my mind at rest when I kick down the duckets. Just add a bunch of confusing ingredients + a bit of creatine powder.