Class action lawsuit.....BSN sued..Cellmass contains no CEM3?

MuscleGuyinNY · 12-01-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Necroticism

i bet bsn will settle out of court.

Perhaps a lifetime supply of BSN products? Ha.

MuscleGuyinNY · 12-01-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cellardude

probably. They might dig themselves out of many holes in fact. I however dont see them getting out of the whole CEM3 thing however. Reguardless I still think they might be charged with fraud. You should read the article above. It was an intresting read. I skimmed through it but it was a pretty intresting read. Not as hard to interpret as other things ive seen before.

You can dig yourself out of any legal matter if you either know the right people or have the money.

**Cellardude** · 12-01-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY

Yes, the late Johnny Cochran. That guy could get anybody out of anything. There's actually a lawyer here where I love, who's pretty much like a mediocre JC. He charges up the ass, but he's definitely worth every penny. He recently got a man off of manslaughter. It was pretty crazy.

I never get sick of South Park, but I do get sick of OJ. Not meaning to sidetrack or anything, but I still can't decide as to whether I think he's guilty or not. JC was very intelligent, but he was also a very funny guy from what I've red and heard. He would make very good points, but then confuse the jury and the judge, by switching to talking about something compeltely irrelevant. He was quite a character.

National Lampoon's 'Van Wilder' made fun of OJ, too. When the Law Club helped Van plead his case to the college board. "If the glove doesn't fit, you're all full of sh!t."

haha I never followed up with the OJ details actually. Watching that SP episode was hilarious to see him bring up chewbacca on a court case involving the property of lyrics.

**Cellardude** · 12-01-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY

You can dig yourself out of any legal matter if you either know the right people or have the money.

not EVERYTHING. But you can slide out on a lot of things. Ill be following up on this to see how BSN struggles out of this one.

Necroticism · 12-01-2007, 10:20 PM

true, but i honestly doubt that many people know about it. the vast majority of people that use there stuff are 15-18 year old kids who dont pay attention to much that goes on in the world, let alone a lawsuite vs bsn, and even if they do hear about it they are way to stubborn to beleive it and will think its bs cuz they think no xplode got them jacked. i dont thinks bsn has to worry.

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Originally Posted by Cellardude

to avoid their reputation from being ruined hell yeah. But then agian, this case goes out to EVERYONE who has purchased BSN N.O Explode or Cellmass. Im sure someone else could just whip out another case about it since it was affected by more than just 2 people.

**Cellardude** · 12-01-2007, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Necroticism

true, but i honestly doubt that many people know about it. the vast majority of people that use there stuff are 15-18 year old kids who dont pay attention to much that goes on in the world, let alone a lawsuite vs bsn, and even if they do hear about it they are way to stubborn to beleive it and will think its bs cuz they think no xplode got them jacked. i dont thinks bsn has to worry.

lol. Ill bring that **** up in that case.

jk I have better things to do.

Necroticism · 12-01-2007, 10:26 PM

exactly...these 2 people brought it up, but i honestly doubt there will be more, and when bsn settles it'll shut these 2 people up.

**Cellardude** · 12-01-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Necroticism

exactly...these 2 people brought it up, but i honestly doubt there will be more, and when bsn settles it'll shut these 2 people up.

they'll be rich ass people for sure though. BSN would need 10mil to get me to shut up

MuscleGuyinNY · 12-01-2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cellardude

not EVERYTHING. But you can slide out on a lot of things. Ill be following up on this to see how BSN struggles out of this one.

Well, if this particular lawyer that I'm speaking of could get a guy out of manslaughter, then I'm sure he definitely could've gotten me out of a Criminal Contempt 2nd charge. It's only a B Misdemeanor in New York state. I could've spent tons of money on him ($1,500 to start) to get me out of fines and probation, but I just wanted all of this bullsh!t to be done and over with.

I do have a lot of soures around the area, especially in law enforcement, but you have to catch them on a good day. If you catch them on a bad day, then they worry about losing their and get caught up in other things.

I'm sure BSN will be giving out money and BSN products, left and right.

MuscleGuyinNY · 12-01-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cellardude

they'll be rich ass people for sure though. BSN would need 10mil to get me to shut up

I'm sure BSN has the right amount of money and the right lawyers, to help settle this suit.

BSN is probably surprised that it took somebody this long to catch on, lol.

ElMariachi · 12-01-2007, 10:45 PM

Link to an actual analysis of Cellmass. No CEE detected, only 1.3g of creatine monohydrate.

http://www.supplementpolice.com/9898.pdf

PS-Be aware that if this lawsuit goes through, it may not be just individuals who get involved. The FTC and FDA might both play a role in this. Especially the FTC, they've been quick to drop the hammer recently on companies that have engaged in fraud. If the government gets involved in this, it will be MUCH MUCH worse for BSN.

MuscleGuyinNY · 12-01-2007, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ElMariachi

Link to an actual analysis of Cellmass. No CEE detected, only 1.3g of creatine monohydrate.

http://www.supplementpolice.com/9898.pdf

PS-Be aware that if this lawsuit goes through, it may not be just individuals who get involved. The FTC and FDA might both play a role in this. Especially the FTC, they've been quick to drop the hammer recently on companies that have engaged in fraud. If the government gets involved in this, it will be MUCH MUCH worse for BSN.

If the government gets involved, especially the government we have now, then most supplement companies will be getting a lot of very unappreciated attention. But BSN will be to blame for starting it.

Lets not forget President Bush's joy of signing bans.

I'm not trying to turn this thread political or anything, but I think it's ridiculous when the government is telling people what they can and cannot do with their bodies. There have already been two bans and I'm sure there are more to come. BSN definitely won't be the only victim/enemy of the government's tyrade.

ElMariachi · 12-01-2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY

If the government gets involved, especially the government we have now, then most supplement companies will be getting a lot of very unappreciated attention. But BSN will be to blame for starting it.

Lets not forget President Bush's joy of signing bans.

I'm not trying to turn this thread political or anything, but I think it's ridiculous when the government is telling people what they can and cannot do with their bodies. There have already been two bans and I'm sure there are more to come. BSN definitely won't be the only victim/enemy of the government's tyrade.

How is the government being tyrannical???? Also, the signed ban only enforced existing steroid laws that were already on the books. On top of that, how is the government taking action against fradulent companies in anyway "telling people what to do with their bodies?"

I'm getting the impression that you have a real problem with logic.

**Cellardude** · 12-01-2007, 11:02 PM

I just read a thread that tested epistane. It turns out that it only contains about 40% of the ingredience that was stated. Thats kind of surprising to me.

ElMariachi · 12-01-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cellardude

I just read a thread that tested epistane. It turns out that it only contains about 40% of the ingredience that was stated. Thats kind of surprising to me.

Patrick Arnold thinks that Epistane might even possibly be tren as its MW does not match up with Havoc or any of the other epi compounds.

MuscleGuyinNY · 12-01-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cellardude

I just read a thread that tested epistane. It turns out that it only contains about 40% of the ingredience that was stated. Thats kind of surprising to me.

Perhaps that's why people see better results while stacking with it or pulsing it with something else?

This is surprising to me as well.