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In the past I have seen prodcuts like Ultra Labs Human Growth Complex. In fact i gave it a run for a while a few years ago, and was fairly pleased with the results. Does anyone here have any experience with this type of product? Here is the ingredient profile:

Somatotrophine(gh) 12x,
insulin-like growth factor-1,
(igf-1) 12x,
alfalfa 3x,
arnica montana 15x,
arsenicum album 15x,
baptisia 15x,
glesemium sempervirens 15x,
lacticum acidum 15x,
lycopodium clavatum 15x, ,
phophorus 15x,
rhus toxicodendron 15x,
ruta graveolens 10x.
 

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James Randi sets you straight on homeopathy:
 
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Delightful presentation! I was laughing pretty hard there!!
 
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EJ that was fricken hillariouse, great stuff, I would rep you if I could!
 
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James Randi sets you straight on homeopathy:
HaHa! He is so right but yet so wrong at the same time. I wish homeopathy could be summed up in a 15 minute presentation but it can't. Although a case of curing lung cancer by smoking super diluted cigarettes is a funny thought to me. The fact of the matter is that even though there is no scientific validation or explanation 10-25% of homeopathics work and work very well. Of the homeopathics that work well they they all technically outperform their prescription counter parts without messing up the system or having side effects. The problem is that like doesn't always treat like and some overzealous companies have turned homeopathy into a laughing stock by putting out products such as homeopathic GH and Test products.

Homeopathic allergy products work
Homeopathic Growth Hormone or sports related stuff doesn't.

I won't go through a flu season without occillococcinum in my cupboard (it's one of the 10-25% that work) and I consider myself very educated and sane. The stuff works. I can't explain why but it does. I also can't explain why "Apis" ground up and homeopathically diluted bees works so well on bee stings but it does.

I think James Randi needs to spend more time on things that matter because he seems very bright and motivated. Perhaps he should do a seminar on modern day vaccines because they are based on the same principals as homeopathy with live or dead bacteria only not as dilute. The efficacy of modern day vaccines is less than 50% (which is a failing grade in my opinion) and more often than not they lead to minor-major problems with the recipient if the vaccinated person comes down with the ailment in which they've been vaccinated for. Sometimes it triples the death rate........... Now I'm just rambling!

Reaper329, I personally wouldn't buy that product because it doesn't make sense. If "like always treated like" as the theory of homeopathy suggests then what happens if you take this and already have higher GH, IGF-1 levels? In theory the product would bring the elevated hormone levels back to baseline (that is if the product worked)

The lesson for the day is don't trust anyone's opinion, do lots of research, live in the woods, stock pile firearms, and continue lifting heavy things. :D :run:
 
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"Toxicodendron" is an ingredient.

Needeth I speak on? lol
 
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Don't tell SDI or Zoelabs, or Fizogen or they will have a new product line next week.
 
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Don't tell SDI or Zoelabs, or Fizogen or they will have a new product line next week.
Ha! Test 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Nothing is stronger!
 
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I think, and this is just my opinion, that the human brain is able to cure many illnesses on its own, and by taking these homeopathic supps, what we think is really working is actually the placebo effect which opens up never before used areas of our brains to cure us.
 
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I think, and this is just my opinion, that the human brain is able to cure many illnesses on its own, and by taking these homeopathic supps, what we think is really working is actually the placebo effect which opens up never before used areas of our brains to cure us.
That is a great point and I agree. The placebo effect is often overlooked with the majority of supps and medications.
 
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which makes you wonder what our brains are fully capable of doing. If homeopathic therapy is one way of opening up these pathways in our brain, then I wonder what other methods could be used to open other pathways for our brain to achieve the next advancement in evolution.
 
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which makes you wonder what our brains are fully capable of doing. If homeopathic therapy is one way of opening up these pathways in our brain, then I wonder what other methods could be used to open other pathways for our brain to achieve the next advancement in evolution.
Our minds are so powerfull we don't even know how much it can do. If we can use 10%, can you just imagine?

Take for example a mother. The energy they have to raise a newborn, work during the day (some do) and take care of everything else is amazing. This is will at it's best.
 
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Our minds are so powerfull we don't even know how much it can do. If we can use 10%, can you just imagine?

Take for example a mother. The energy they have to raise a newborn, work during the day (some do) and take care of everything else is amazing. This is will at it's best.
and yet, they can't find their car keys when they are ready to leave the house...
 

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