most ppl do IGF-2/Dirve/RPM, very well liked and effective stack....im sure you'll find something through a search
theninja and ahs4n ran IGF-2 logs
theninja and ahs4n ran IGF-2 logs
Heck.... why don't you be the first to log IGF-2 and Drive as a combo? Run IGF-2 and Drive solo (plus staples) and I might be able to swing a 2nd bottle of IGF-2 your way to up the ante!
Yup, I LOVED my IGF-2 cycle. Increase muscle, lifts, attitude, sleep patterns...decrease fat. I would probably suggest picking up 2 bottles of IGF-2 though. The AN guys can correct me if I'm wrong, but from my experience, it really kicked in around day 14. So if you are like me taking 9 a day, you'd only get ~27 days out of it. Of course there is no problem running 1 bottle with all the other goodies for a month to see how you react though.
You can see my log in my signature.
Warbird...do it man...that would be a sick combo. Would love to see how that stack would work out.
Damn, you guys are getting me excited for this! Im gonna come off XF/ActX then do a 4 week cut which will count as my off time for ActX so after my cut i can start Drive/IGF2 rigt after!
I wouldn't take that 4 weeks off. they use different chemistry to get the same results. Drive/igf-2 would be great for keeping the gains alive and growing as x-factor's arachidonic acid starts to fade out.
rpm and neovar!
rpm and neovar!
rpm and neovar!
But i dont want to "waste" this stack on a mini cut. On my 3-4 week cut im gonna just be using Leviathan Reloaded and BCAAs
Ah I would save the mini cut till after the drive/igf2, and just continue the clean x-factor bulk
I can't imagine 600g in a day. I have a hard time breaking 300.
I used to do it easy. But ive been taking in 500-600g for about 20 weeks now. Wasted like 10 weeks during summer taking in 500g when i really needed 600g to grow
I wish i could grow on around 400g
is it more your total calories?
Interesting thread going up in the AN section soon...............
Ohh man, I'm getting about 400gr a day and Im stil hungry. I'm bout to be on the same boat as you warbird,lol :run:
Yeah, i used to starve on 450 then raised to 500 (stayed there for like 8 weeks untill i realized i needed like 550-600g to grow)
Have you ever tried a fat centric approach instead? just wondering. olive oil, coconut oil, etc. Just a thought for something different![]()
Whatever you need to make target cals for the dayso take what you want in carbs, add HEALTHY fats to make the difference. Bacon grease doesn't count. Its really easy to add 1000 cals in coconut oil tho. at 9 cal a gram, taking 1oz is an extra near 400 calories, so doing that with 3 meals in the day adds 1200 for the day...
try it with coconut oil first, its probably the best for you. I like using it to fry foods in. one of my favorits is to put around 1oz (3 tbsp) of coconut oil in a pan, get some jerk seasonings on some shrimp and fry em in it, then after taking the shrimp out tossing some fresh spinach in the pan to wilt it and soak the rest of the oil up, then a splash of lime juice on it. works like a charm![]()
i'm still not sure if I can take it with xfactor, need to check.
coconut oil goes solid at fridge temp, so you could pour it into an ice cube tray, let it harden, then pop it out and store in a ziploc premeasured![]()
i'm still not sure if I can take it with xfactor, need to check.
coconut oil goes solid at fridge temp, so you could pour it into an ice cube tray, let it harden, then pop it out and store in a ziploc premeasured![]()
Is it really worth it taking in 350 grams of protein unless you're on a steroid cycle.
I used to take in 350 grams of protein...but all it did was make me become a stink bomb and just make everyone hate me because I had terrible farts.
I'm taking in 250 grams of protein and just add carbs and fats for the rest of the calories..and seems like its doing the same in lean mass gains.
Is it really worth it taking in 350 grams of protein unless you're on a steroid cycle.
I used to take in 350 grams of protein...but all it did was make me become a stink bomb and just make everyone hate me because I had terrible farts.
I'm taking in 250 grams of protein and just add carbs and fats for the rest of the calories..and seems like its doing the same in lean mass gains.
i'm probably only taking in around 200 or so right now on xfactor