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Well, I want to take this opportunity to congratulate VPX's NO Shotgun. I tried a sample today before I worked out. Now there have been ALOT of nasty supplements that I've tried that ranged anywhere from just tasting nasty to very nauseating. Well, part way through my squats tonight I ran to the bathroom and threw up twice the cinnamon fecal matter tasting supplement.

There has not been any supplement that has actually forced me to throw up because of it until now.

VPX's Redline Xtreme sucks, and no surprise NO Shotgun sucks too.:FUfinger:


...........so much for 'hyperplasia'.
 
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you pretty much have to take it with juice like orange pineapple banana, I agree it tastes horrible
 
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thanks for the honest review reap, their always appreciated in my books.
 
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it's bad, but it never made me throw up. Energy wise it wasn't so great, but pump wise it owns every other NO supp. Not that these artificially induced pumps really matter but damn they felt cool. I'm hoping my RPM/drive stack will have the same effect if not better.
 

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This just in:

it gave me diarrhea. I just found that out right now
 

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I'm only open to trying the Anabolic Xtreme creatine or whatever it is coming out and Molecular Nutrition's cell volumizer.

Anything else that I said I'm gonna try, f-ck it I'm not going to. Too much bullsh-t out there.

Even ALRI's WTF Pump'd kinda tastes like barf. At least it works though, but I'm not buying it again.

Right now I'm using IDS Muscle Volumizer. It's cheap, it's basic, and it's not pretty but I like it. If all else fails I'm going to just stick with it from now on.
 
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I'm only open to trying the Anabolic Xtreme creatine or whatever it is coming out and Molecular Nutrition's cell volumizer.

Anything else that I said I'm gonna try, f-ck it I'm not going to. Too much bullsh-t out there.

Even ALRI's WTF Pump'd kinda tastes like barf. At least it works though, but I'm not buying it again.

Right now I'm using IDS Muscle Volumizer. It's cheap, it's basic, and it's not pretty but I like it. If all else fails I'm going to just stick with it from now on.
I try to stay away from testing tons and tons of products. Especially if I think the company is shady to begin with.
 

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The only reason why I'm still up for MN/AX is b/c they are big names who have to put out quality products to keep repeat customers.

VPX, Muscle-Tech, BSN, basically any company that sponsor's a IFBB pro sucks. I've noticed that trend.


I've just been taking bulk L-Citrulline and adding it to IDS Muscle Volumizer. Lol, IDS needs to make a superdrol muscle volumizer pre-workout supp. haha.
 
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The only reason why I'm still up for MN/AX is b/c they are big names who have to put out quality products to keep repeat customers.

VPX, Muscle-Tech, BSN, basically any company that sponsor's a IFBB pro sucks. I've noticed that trend.


I've just been taking bulk L-Citrulline and adding it to IDS Muscle Volumizer. Lol, IDS needs to make a superdrol muscle volumizer pre-workout supp. haha.
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MN and AX are top notch companys. I must say, company's do have their way of straying away from quality and going for the money. Im pretty sure muscle-tech and BSN at one point were the leaders in their products. It's only logically that they are where they are today because of success at one point. Afterwards lots of money gets thrown into the mix and the company starts to produce 2nd rate products for insane ammounts of cash.
 
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Well, I want to take this opportunity to congratulate VPX's NO Shotgun. I tried a sample today before I worked out. Now there have been ALOT of nasty supplements that I've tried that ranged anywhere from just tasting nasty to very nauseating. Well, part way through my squats tonight I ran to the bathroom and threw up twice the cinnamon fecal matter tasting supplement.

There has not been any supplement that has actually forced me to throw up because of it until now.

VPX's Redline Xtreme sucks, and no surprise NO Shotgun sucks too.:FUfinger:


...........so much for 'hyperplasia'.
Yea, from my experience all VPX products suck. Shotgun tasted like crap and always cut my workout short because of the headaches and stomaches it gave me. This is probably the only forum I can find on the web that gives Shotgun a bad review. :thumbsup:
VPX:FUfinger:
 
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I could have told you it tasted like dirty pornstar butthole....

I gave my to some kid and he gave it away.
haha VPX redline is the only stuff i like. i wanted to try other things by them but Shotgun ruined it.

WTF is tolerable for sure and knowing it gets me goin works even better for slammin it.


Check the sig...i cant wait.
 
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Even ALRI's WTF Pump'd kinda tastes like barf.
Awe man, dont tell me that. I just got some and was looking foward to starting it tomorrow until now. Oh well, all in the name of bodybuilding.
 

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Reaper's rundown:

NO-XPLODE by BSN: Ok tasting, too heavy on the stims, too expensive.

SuperPump250 by Gaspari Nutrition: Very effective laxative, too heavy on the stim. Too expensive.

TRAC NO-Extreme by MHP: Ok tasting, it is tolerable, pumps average, too expensive, waste of money.

WTF Pump'd by ALRI: Bad tasting, moderate on cost, very effective pumps, excellent balance on stim. Not an overkill.

Muscle Volumizer by IDS: Cheap, basic, what the hell is titrated creatine ?, AAKG, tastes good.

Ultimate Orange by Next Nutrition: Flavor is too strong and made me sick to my stomach, not that great in pumps. Product sucks.

NO Shotgun by VPX: Too expensive, laxative, tastes like municiple raw sewage. The worst I've tried so far.


sometimes with as bad as a product is, it makes me wonder if they even try this crap out before selling it.
 
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I do know a kid that stomached it and he said he loved. I hate the kid though, he sucks....
 
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Yea, from my experience all VPX products suck. Shotgun tasted like crap and always cut my workout short because of the headaches and stomaches it gave me. This is probably the forum I can find on the web that gives Shotgun a bad review. :thumbsup:
VPX:FUfinger:

this forum has great companys who deserve to replace BSN and MuscleTech. I like this forum way better than bb.com because bb.com is like a competition. The reason there are so many reps over there is to advertise/market their products reguardless if their effective or not. In fact bb.com has lots of companys that are really shady. It's complicated to understand but with such a gigantic forum, it's bound to attract trolls that have no other desire than to rip you off for bogus products. But, if you don't get into the bb.com crowd your product may be overlooked. so their good and bads bout it. AM I find much more honest feedback eventhough it's not as big. AM doesnt attract money moochers here as well. :lol:
 
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Reaper's rundown:

NO-XPLODE by BSN: Ok tasting, too heavy on the stims, too expensive.

SuperPump250 by Gaspari Nutrition: Very effective laxative, too heavy on the stim. Too expensive.

TRAC NO-Extreme by MHP: Ok tasting, it is tolerable, pumps average, too expensive, waste of money.

WTF Pump'd by ALRI: Bad tasting, moderate on cost, very effective pumps, excellent balance on stim. Not an overkill.

Muscle Volumizer by IDS: Cheap, basic, what the hell is titrated creatine ?, AAKG, tastes good.

Ultimate Orange by Next Nutrition: Flavor is too strong and made me sick to my stomach, not that great in pumps. Product sucks.

NO Shotgun by VPX: Too expensive, laxative, tastes like municiple raw sewage. The worst I've tried so far.
None of those preworkout craps have worked for me. I have never even got the slightest amount of pump from anything I've tried thus far. I have pretty much given up on buying any product that states that it will give you major pumps.
 

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A lot of the 'pump' has to do with diet.

I was going to try Ragnarok and Chaos by Anabolic Innovations, but after NO Shotgun, I'm kinda getting sick of these pre-workout products claiming to be something they are not. Noooo way I'm not trying anymore of that stuff....unless it is given to me free.

IDS has AAKG, taurine, and titrated creatine...whatever that is. I just add l-citrulline and that's it. It tastes like kool-aid, plus it is stim-free and cheap.


Who would have thought IDS would win me over on pre-workout supps.
 

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this forum has great companys who deserve to replace BSN and MuscleTech. I like this forum way better than bb.com because bb.com is like a competition. The reason there are so many reps over there is to advertise/market their products reguardless if their effective or not. In fact bb.com has lots of companys that are really shady. It's complicated to understand but with such a gigantic forum, it's bound to attract trolls that have no other desire than to rip you off for bogus products. But, if you don't get into the bb.com crowd your product may be overlooked. so their good and bads bout it. AM I find much more honest feedback eventhough it's not as big. AM doesnt attract money moochers here as well. :lol:
bb.com is a shady forum. I joined there back in Jan '07 and everyone is brainwashed. I told them that creatine monohydrate was better than CEE and I think just that comment alone put me in negative points....haha.


I don't go there anymore.....ever.
 

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I do know a kid that stomached it and he said he loved. I hate the kid though, he sucks....


Well, the taste of 'poop' is an acquired taste. I'm sure that kid probably has had plenty of expierence with fecal matter in his mouth prior to using NO Shotgun which is why he is totally ok with it.
 
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Not a lot of them have worked for me in the past eather, but CEL NOX Surge seemed to work better than any of them. Doesnt taste very good, but it works very well.
 
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bb.com is a shady forum. I joined there back in Jan '07 and everyone is brainwashed. I told them that creatine monohydrate was better than CEE and I think just that comment alone put me in negative points....haha.


I don't go there anymore.....ever.
idiots
 

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Taste is a big thing for supplements that companies ALWAYS overlook. I mean you are putting it in your mouth and you are going to taste it. Why would they think taste does not matter ?

You think all the fatties that eat McDonalds everyday would keep doing so if it tasted bad ? Lol.
 

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Of all the pre workout tub mixes I have tried the only ones I liked are vasocharge and Ragnarok.
 
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Hands down - Nimbus' Blast is the best pre-work out mixxer. And I cannot believe what I'm about to say but LG Science's Cold Fusion FX is OK too.
 
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A lot of the 'pump' has to do with diet.

I was going to try Ragnarok and Chaos by Anabolic Innovations, but after NO Shotgun, I'm kinda getting sick of these pre-workout products claiming to be something they are not. Noooo way I'm not trying anymore of that stuff....unless it is given to me free.

IDS has AAKG, taurine, and titrated creatine...whatever that is. I just add l-citrulline and that's it. It tastes like kool-aid, plus it is stim-free and cheap.


Who would have thought IDS would win me over on pre-workout supps.
Stim-Free Blue Raspberry Ragnarok is one of my favorites, taste-wise.
 

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It is too bad b/c I'd like to keep trying pre-workout supps to see what is out there, but I'm not keen about wasting $40-$50 each time just to find out it is junk.
 
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Hands down - Nimbus' Blast is the best pre-work out mixxer. And I cannot believe what I'm about to say but LG Science's Cold Fusion FX is OK too.
Were you drinking today? haah just kiddin.
I kind of like how we have our own little "world" of supp companies that are little known. I go to a local supp store and ask questions on shyt i alreadyknow like i was told that
"LG Methyl liquid (whatevr its called) is the exact same compound as Superdrol, and its is better cause its liquid and you can feel it more preWO..." i cut in there with "really...i thought superdrol was banned and also...i heard that stuff is kind of crappy." he was left speechless and i bouth my 2 things and bounced.

The same douchebag i know whos likes Shotgun is on Bold 200 and has a shyt diet and claims he "feels more angry and more vascular." hes def not more vascular, has a gut, and is still a puss. He was talkin **** behind my back. im waitin to own him on somethin...or just woop his ass.
 

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Oh yeah for anyone wondering:

The first time I threw up it was b/c of the nasty supplement itself.

The second time I threw up it was b/c of the first time the cinnamon flavor was permeating my mouth causing me to puke again.


Just wanted to let you all know.
 
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It is too bad b/c I'd like to keep trying pre-workout supps to see what is out there, but I'm not keen about wasting $40-$50 each time just to find out it is junk.
Even if someone says it good. i may just buy one tub of something and use it every other 2 or 3 WOs. sometime si feel to dependent on it.
 

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ragnarok and chaos run close to $40+ S&H. I'm sure AX's creatine and Molecular Nutrition's cell volumizer will probably be expensive too.

IDS Muscle Volumizer is like 30 servings for $20.00
 

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If you look at my list above I'm like 1/6 in terms of pre-workout supps. Not too good of odds there.
 
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Reaper's rundown:

NO-XPLODE by BSN: Ok tasting, too heavy on the stims, too expensive.

SuperPump250 by Gaspari Nutrition: Very effective laxative, too heavy on the stim. Too expensive.

TRAC NO-Extreme by MHP: Ok tasting, it is tolerable, pumps average, too expensive, waste of money.

WTF Pump'd by ALRI: Bad tasting, moderate on cost, very effective pumps, excellent balance on stim. Not an overkill.

Muscle Volumizer by IDS: Cheap, basic, what the hell is titrated creatine ?, AAKG, tastes good.

Ultimate Orange by Next Nutrition: Flavor is too strong and made me sick to my stomach, not that great in pumps. Product sucks.

NO Shotgun by VPX: Too expensive, laxative, tastes like municiple raw sewage. The worst I've tried so far.


sometimes with as bad as a product is, it makes me wonder if they even try this crap out before selling it.
the only 2 products that were ever great on that list were the orig no explode and the orig ultimate orange!
 

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Original Ultimate Orange had ephedra in it....that was really old school shlt though.
 
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I've never used it, I don't use dextrose especially not preWO, but I just wanna know WTF Titrated Creatine is.
 
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The same douchebag i know whos likes Shotgun is on Bold 200 and has a shyt diet and claims he "feels more angry and more vascular." hes def not more vascular, has a gut, and is still a puss. He was talkin **** behind my back. im waitin to own him on somethin...or just woop his ass.
 

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I think I'm going to give away ALRI's WTF Pump'd and MHP's TRAC No-Extreme to my friends. I hate giving away stuff all the time but I don't like both those products. I'm going to finish up the IDS Muscle Volumizer and wait for MN/AX's stuff to come out.
 

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How much caffeine does the stim version of Ragnarok have per serving ? 200mg ?
 
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I'm trying to decide what type of creatine to try when I start it back up in a few weeks. I'm debating between Avant's syntheSIZE final, Man Clout, bulk creatine gluconate, or just straight mono. I've never actually used mono before.
 
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How much caffeine does the stim version of Ragnarok have per serving ? 200mg ?
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creatine monohydrate works good, however I expierence the side effects pretty hard from it.

I get muscle cramping, bloating, sickening feeling to my stomach, and carry about 3-4lbs of water while I'm using monohydrate.
 

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I tried SizeON by Gaspari Nutrition and the lemon ice tastes really good. I used it post-workout. I'm not sure if the creatine gluconate did anything or if the product itself did anything, but the lemon ice was very good tasting.
 
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I tried SizeON by Gaspari Nutrition and the lemon ice tastes really good. I used it post-workout. I'm not sure if the creatine gluconate did anything or if the product itself did anything, but the lemon ice was very good tasting.
I'm still confused on how exactly creatine gluconate works.
 

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I'm still confused on how exactly creatine gluconate works.


I'm not exactly sure, but the creatine is bound to a glucose molecule. So the creatine piggybacks the glucose molecule until it reaches a certain point in the body in the GI tract. The they seperate so now you have a creatine monohydrate molecule and a glucose molecule. At that point, the glucose causes a insulin spike which shoves the creatine molecule into the muscle.

That is what basically happens from what I understand. Sounds good on paper, but who knows if that's what really happens. Sounds kinda bogus. Creatine gluconate was Bruce Knueller's creation I believe.
 
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I'm not exactly sure, but the creatine is bound to a glucose molecule. So the creatine piggybacks the glucose molecule until it reaches a certain point in the body in the GI tract. The they seperate so now you have a creatine monohydrate molecule and a glucose molecule. At that point, the glucose causes a insulin spike which shoves the creatine molecule into the muscle.

That is what basically happens from what I understand. Sounds good on paper, but who knows if that's what really happens.
According to PA, it's creatine bonded to gluconic acid, which I guess is an oxidation product of glucose. BK says the gluconic acid binds with H2O in the plasma and becomes glucose, but PA says that gluconic acid can't do that and it won't form glucose/carbs. IDK.
 
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This was posted on a different forum:


creatine gluconate will not "split up" into creatine and glucose. It will split up into creatine and gluconic acid. Gluconic acid is an oxidation product of glucose and it will not reconvert to glucose. It really serves no function in the body that will potentiate creatine or anything like that
 
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Celldude likes DiMalate. I want to try CLOUT but its so freakin expensive. And don;t want to deal with the water/craming from Mono.
So i may bite it and
Stick with Storm
Clout it i get enough cash
DiCreatine Malate is NP has it when i order next.
 

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There's too many versions of creatine out there. I just started only buying monohydrate and using it from time to time b/c it works for me despite side effects.

I've tried CEE with no avail. I also tried Kre-Alkalyn with no avail. I dosed both CEE and Kre-Alkalyn @ 10g with no results.
 

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