Formestane vs. ATD
- 10-02-2007, 12:10 AM
Formestane vs. ATD
im a big fan of nutraplanets bulk powders...i have used androstenetrione, bulk nettle, and bulk powerfull and liked them all.
Which is better/more effective...Formestane or ATD? and how do they compare to androstenetrione? any other estrogen control supplement suggestions are welcome
- 10-02-2007, 07:54 AM
Formestane seems to be the "hot" product these days on AM. I myself jumped on the bandwagon and started using some. The most significant difference so far seems to be the more positive effect it has on my libido compared to ATD. Other than that, its only been a week so its hard for me judge.
- 10-02-2007, 10:28 AM
10-02-2007, 10:35 PM
10-02-2007, 10:46 PM
get some bulk powder from NP and put it in penetrate, comes out even cheaper than e-form
10-02-2007, 11:28 PM
10-02-2007, 11:54 PM
10-03-2007, 02:02 AM
Never used ATD, but Form is the real deal baby....yeah!
10-03-2007, 10:46 AM
I'll have to give form a try next time. ATD really does hammer down estrogen..there's no doubt in my mind as it has gotten rid of 2 seperate gyno flare ups...but you do pay a price in the libido department. Estrogen rebound doesn't seem to be an issue with ATD either in my experience.
10-03-2007, 10:48 AM
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10-03-2007, 06:21 PM
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10-03-2007, 06:47 PM
how does foremstane comapare to reversterol
also how do u mix powders in with penetrate?
10-03-2007, 08:16 PM
As for the mixing just refer to the first page in the link.
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10-03-2007, 08:58 PM
10-03-2007, 11:08 PM
10-04-2007, 04:58 AM
09-04-2009, 12:13 PM
So, what is the verdict about using formestane as a bulk and capping it yourself? Is there not enough bioavailability here?
09-04-2009, 02:15 PM
09-04-2009, 03:15 PM
Saw the formestane talk and had to chime in. I recently came off a 6 week 1-t tren cycle and am using the twice a day formestane transdermal. I'm in my third week of PCT with formestane and Suppress-C and the transition has been seemless for me. I would even dare to say that my workouts have felt better than when On cycle! I've maintained my gains thus far and dropped some bloating weight as well. Libido is great, agression in the gym is hardcore. I highly reccomend it.
09-04-2009, 05:09 PM
09-04-2009, 06:02 PM
09-11-2009, 03:44 PM
This was my first cycle of 1-t tren, so my first two weeks I used 5 pumps twice a day followed by four weeks of 6 to 7 pumps twice a day. I threw in my usual daily vitamin and fish oil. I used scivation (which I am new to and love!) vaso charge pre workout with Xtend intra and post workout. Now my pct has been 2 weeks with 4 squirts formestane twice daily and 2 squirts Suppress-c twice daily. I'm now in the 4th week, so I'm cutting down to 1 squirt formestane twice daily and 1 supress-c and am transitioning into a nattie test booster to get mother nature back in sync. Looks like I am going to use the new Diesel Test pro cycle.
09-11-2009, 06:15 PM
09-11-2009, 06:22 PM
I've also heard awesome stuff about it; I just question the consistncy of a topical.
09-11-2009, 07:39 PM
09-11-2009, 07:44 PM
09-11-2009, 07:49 PM
09-11-2009, 07:51 PM
09-11-2009, 08:10 PM
A good transdermal matrix will absorb into the lower layers of the skin and not wash or rub out after a few hours. Once there in the dermal layers, it will release slowly over a period of 6-12 hours so TD tends to give more consistent blood levels than oral. Not always, but generally.
It's just that TD is a PITA.
I've been experimenting with TD formestane and find it to be quite suppressive if used for more than 10 days straight. It also aggrevates my pre-existing gyno. It does boost libido, aggression, vascularity and muscle fullness for sure but I'm not sure I buy all the claims about it lowering E and raising T indefinitely.
09-11-2009, 08:27 PM
09-11-2009, 08:28 PM
09-11-2009, 08:30 PM
Oh, I found out the hard way brother!
09-11-2009, 09:13 PM
I started with 2 pumps 2x per day but backed off quickly as the aforementioned sides kicked in. Now I used it every once in a while at maybe 1/4 pump once per day and do OK with it. I don't know if I am just sensitive to it or what. It may be that it lowers SHBG faster than it lowers E.
Like I said, I'm experimenting with it so we'll see. I had high hopes for it.
09-11-2009, 10:12 PM
09-11-2009, 10:20 PM
thebigt, you have to remember that people respond differently to different compounds, I for one have NEVER had problems with ATD.
doing my own thang!
09-11-2009, 10:35 PM
09-11-2009, 10:37 PM
Lot of reasons but formestane is vastly superior
09-11-2009, 10:39 PM
09-12-2009, 07:36 PM
Yeah, ATD definitely aggravated my gyno, but again it effects everyone in a different manner.
09-12-2009, 08:51 PM
May be the prolactin issue actually. I have been zeroing in on that mode of action for a while now so it makes sense.
Otherwise, I really like the stuff as it provides a nice boost very quickly.
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