Best testosterone boosting stack now available
- 08-04-2007, 09:25 PM
Best testosterone boosting stack now available
I HATE these type of threads by and large, but I have done a lot of research and come up with no cut and dry answer. I need some help in this department because I am suffering from low test and high estrogen (middle fat, lack of drive, etc.) and I actually have some money to spend for once.
I hope that everyone doesn't bash me too much and I don't plan on constantly making these kinds of threads but I would appreciate some help. Thanks in advance. Also, I have about $70/month to spend on these products.
- 08-04-2007, 10:31 PM
- 08-04-2007, 11:07 PM
Sorry, should have included that. I'm 32, 6'2" and about 255 with about 25% BF all around the middle. I've been training for years and my progress is grinding to a halt.
Also, my sex drive is sporadic. I miss my morning friend. Hope this helps.
08-04-2007, 11:47 PM
Another little bit of information, I have taken Diesel Test 2010 and I'm sorry but it did nothing for me. I know a lot of others had good results, but I felt nothing. Ejaculoid/Tribuloid stack was better for wood and strength for me.
I don't want to take PH's so that limits me somewhat. Any help would be appreciated.
08-04-2007, 11:59 PM
two options - go with something like Nolvadex XT or Activate (DS) or talk to your doctor about HRT
08-05-2007, 08:03 AM
depends which route you want to go, if your looking for AI/ATD or herbal test boosters.....for herbal look into colossal labs testoFREAK, but HRT is best way to go at your age.......if your ok with synthetic hormones.
08-05-2007, 10:08 AM
08-05-2007, 10:24 AM
Thanks, guys. I am going to check into a product soon. I just want to feel strong, confident and easily sexually aroused like I used to. I'm going to wait a little longer and see how people are doing on the AX and then make my decision.
HRT is something I would consider if my natty levels were so low that I actually need an exogenous source. I'm going to get my t-levels, etc. checked before hand anyway so I'll know then.
08-05-2007, 11:10 AM
08-05-2007, 06:08 PM
I hate to be graphic, but I do have some of the less serious but common side effects: lack of morning wood 4 or 5 times a week, loss of erection during sex, softer erections, lack of energy, a large amount of belly fat in relation to total bodyfat, etc.
I don't want to do HRT until I have to so natural is the way I want to go until I just can't. I'm too young to feel this damn old. Thanks for all the input.
08-05-2007, 06:17 PM
I got this stack idea from USP Labs but I don't know in what dosages:
Off USPlabs subject but have you tried T-force from Omega sports. I would stack PowerFULL, T-force, Nettle root, Avena sativa, and forskolin. This could possible be the best testosterone elevating stack ever created and it's yours for free today folks!
08-05-2007, 06:38 PM
08-05-2007, 06:52 PM
08-05-2007, 10:01 PM
Another vote for getting your hormone levels checked (T, thyroid, etc.). In my case, I had low T and thyroid, and doing HRT (age 38) completely changed my life for the better.
Confidence, strength, wood, it's all there.
Check out Dr. Chrisler's protocol - T + HCG. It works great and keeps the nuts in good order.
08-06-2007, 06:35 PM
08-06-2007, 06:41 PM
- 5'10" 220 lbs.
- Join Date
- Jan 2006
I have tried many testosterone boosting supplements and I have found that nettle extract works great. I am currently testing Activate Extreme and it is working great. All of the classic test elevating signs are there: acne, aggression, increased erections, improned mood.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
08-06-2007, 10:59 PM
This is encouraging. I want to be able to take something that will make me feel better and more aggressive and hopefully I can find a supp I can take everyday without cycling. There is nothing I hate more than the letdown of coming off a good supplement.
Still reviewing the research. What about Powerfull in bulk? Also, do you need to cycle natural supps? Sorry for all the ?'s, I just need answers and experiential feedback from people who have been there.
08-07-2007, 11:25 AM
Sup Jay Madden,
I have used Hyperdrolx2 by Anabolic Extreme and it worked awsome; lots of random wood, morning wood every morning, rock hard erections so hard that my junk would hurt from it, and great lasting power. I didn't feel more aggressive on it though. Do you take ZMA (zinc + mag) ? If not then try that first.
You say you have all of your fat predominantly around your midsection. That sounds like high cortisol. You may wanna one of the many cort products: lean extreme, x-lean, retain 2, etc.
08-07-2007, 09:32 PM
Yeah, I think cortisol might be high too. I need to get tests done. I hope that I can get the doc to do all the right tests, but we'll see. Unfortunately, most MDs don't know **** about what hormone levels are important to check for a weightlifter.
I'm encouraged by the feedback and hope to get enough information to make an informed purchase. Again, thanks to everyone so far.
08-07-2007, 10:17 PM
You might also want to check out Jungle Warfare to free up bound test and lower estrogen all at once. After two weeks you should begin to notice more aggresion and strength gains. At your size you might want to up the dosage by a cap or, better yet, buy two bottles and run them back to back.
But I do have to agree with what others have said: if you're really that concerned, get your panels done. And see what the doc says. Anything he can do to help you out will most likely be better than what you can buy OTC.
Also, I don't mean to be rude but nothing has been mentioned of your diet. If you don't have this figured out then maybe that should be the first step. No offense but at 25% bf, you could definitely make an improvement there on your own without anything hormonal. This could lead to more confidence/strength/etc after seeing visible changes in overall body makeup (mid-section body fat may still be a problem but overall you may lose fat). Also, it has been shown that high percentages of bodyfat contribute to higher levels of estrogen which could be contributing to the problem.
Whatever you choose to do it seems like you're a smart guy and will figure out the right thing to do for your own body without doing something stupid. Best of luck!
08-08-2007, 11:47 AM
Dermacrine seem to be getting great reviews. ISA-Test looks like a good product as does Activate Extreme.
08-08-2007, 07:54 PM
It is funny that I graduated at about 160 or so and gained close to 100 pounds afterwards. I am going to get it all back under control though. I have a wedding to go to in April and there is no way that I'm going to be a fat Best Man. This focus has definitely made me more committed than ever.
I thank you all for your help. I definitely need to do my homework and make a decision on what I can do. Gotta wait for my insurance to kick in so that I can get the panels done. I hope to find a doctor that is sympathetic to my plight. We'll see. I hope HRT is still years in the future. That's why I asked what everyone is using to blow their test levels through the roof. Thanks again.
08-08-2007, 09:02 PM
Sounds like you've got a solid plan already! Any one of the suggestions from this thread will definitely help you keep/gain strength while you're trying to shed these pounds. Any kind of test boost/estrogen control/cortisol control combo could definitely help your cause. Plenty of good stuff out there right now.
08-08-2007, 11:07 PM
You'd be surprized at what dropping a few lbs will do. My suggestion is start taking one of the aforementioned test boosters along with a cutting stack (BCAA, caffeine etc if you can handle it). Also, not knowing what the cause of your symptoms is limits suggestions, but I would look into cabergoline. Helps sex drive by decreasing that nasty little fem hormone and increases your dopamine levels. (this option I would save till you know the cause of your symptoms or until you've done some research on it).
I have no doubt that once you get to about 15% bf or less you will feel alive again. Def go get your levels checked though. GL to ya.
08-09-2007, 04:38 PM
i spend so much on supps. its sick.
ive used diesel test2010 and 2040 and several others.
my opinion that any of this herbal so called test booster is garbage.
i talked to chuck diesel after taking 5 bottles at over 230.00 and i felt nothing,
not to bash chuck he offered to send me more at no charge.
but i was done with it i prob. have tried several bottles of at least 5 diff, manu. over the years,and while a couple increased my sex drive they didnt increase anything else.
08-09-2007, 08:04 PM
I am going to get a stack together for estrogen control, test boosting and cortisol control. Any of you try any of the cortisol-reducing compounds and how well did they work? Does regular old phosphatidylserine work at high doses ~800mg?
By the way, I'm not weighing myself because that tends to frustrate me, but my face has leaned out some and I noticed that I don't have as much of a done-lap. I have also been able to tighten my belt a notch without much discomfort. When I get the cortisol and estrogen under control, I think my waist will really start to tighten up.
Thanks again to all of you for your interest and time.
08-09-2007, 08:09 PM
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08-09-2007, 10:30 PM
I've been hearing good things about RPM. Is it necessary/advisable to stack it with IGF-2 and if so how much more effective is this stack?
08-09-2007, 11:06 PM
Nettle Root, especially an extract of one of it's ligands binds to SHBG thereby leaving more testosterone unbound/free and active. Bulk Nettle Root or Activate are very good for this and will give your libido a real boost.
Powerful can help libido because of its effects on Dopamine...which plays a very important role in sexual performance.
Aspire36 (natural OTC) and/or Cialis will help in the performance department.
One cycle of IGF-1 LR3 (research chem) will go a long way in restoring your lost sexual function.
08-10-2007, 11:16 AM
u change the amount and what you took everytime u make this post here and at bb.com. I thought it was 4 bottles of 2040?
I dont know about what you have used in the past but I know 100% of the people who are taking DIESEL TEST Hardcore are responding with good results (check the logs here and at bb.com) so if I offered to send u trib test and DTH for free on me to stack and you said no, something else might be going on here.
also you might want to evaluate ur lifestlye and ur horomone levels to find out if there is some problem thats not fixable going on with you that cannot be overcome with nat. test boosters. I guarantee noting avail. nat. produces results (free test/libido/training intensity/erections/mood/pumps) like DIESEL TEST Hardcore. Nothing!
08-10-2007, 01:35 PM
I hope you don't think I'm bashing you, Chuck. I just didn't respond to 2010 like I thought I would and I will admit that my diet was not what it should have been. I may give DT Hardcore a try because I know your commitment to making a great product without having to go the route of PHs.
Also, members like Sixpack from bb.com and others have given your products great reviews. I've followed their posts in the past and they pretty much tell it like it is. If I do decide on DT Hardcore, I will do a log that details all of my experiences, diet, exercise, sleep, etc. so that I can give a totally unbiased report.
08-10-2007, 02:00 PM
I'd also possibly suggest if your wallet opens deep enough doing 1g of resveratrol a day. you can do 500mg resveratrol/500mg quercertin caps at custom capsule for under a dollar a dose, take 2 a day. blood tests showed ridiculous climb in endogenous testosterone
08-10-2007, 02:13 PM
Also I was saying u should have took the free DTH and Trib Test when I offered it so at least you probaby would be saying "DT2010 and DT2040 and every other test booster I tried didnt work but DTH or a combo of DTH and trib test produced "x" result."
It doesnt bother me personally.
08-10-2007, 04:06 PM
i looked back you are right it was 4 bottles and the money amt that i listed for the 5 was the cost of the 4.
i didnt and wont start any threads knocking any of your products.
on the two posts that i answered one here one at bb.com i replied to a question and in both cases i said im not knocking you your a standup guy.
bottom line you have no need to run me down.it didnt work for me.
08-10-2007, 04:42 PM
08-10-2007, 04:44 PM
08-10-2007, 07:34 PM
08-10-2007, 08:21 PM
I'm having good results with that stack. I've been using supps for about 20 years now. Alot of trial and error along with money and supps goin in the t-bowl! I'm also running Reset AD with the Rpm/IGF-2.
08-10-2007, 08:24 PM
08-10-2007, 08:26 PM
Sorry, it was a reply to Jay asking about RPM
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