Best testosterone boosting stack now available
- 08-10-2007, 09:26 PM
- 08-10-2007, 09:30 PM
- 08-10-2007, 09:51 PM
08-10-2007, 10:34 PM
I'm thinking about bulk Powerfull and bulk Cissus. The Powerfull is supposed to help with sleep, test, etc. and the cissus is supposed to help with joint recovery and cortisol to an extent. What do you guys think?
08-10-2007, 11:22 PM
08-11-2007, 07:36 AM
I would go to Nutraplanet and pick up one of these AI's I would personally go with Hyperdrol, the Isa-test has Tribulus and that stuff has alot of bad science behind it.
ISA-TEST 2x w/ Testofen
I would add to that Activate Extreme, T-Force, Icariin, ZMA and Retain.
08-11-2007, 08:27 AM
08-11-2007, 11:56 AM
08-11-2007, 12:26 PM
08-11-2007, 01:00 PM
It was the resveratrol, in those particular tests the users werent using the 6-oxo extreme, just the reserveratrol/quercertin mix at 1g of each a day. The 1100% is the far end of the spectrum, that was the single highest, but all saw rather excessive rises.
I think the math is off there chuck, it 1100% is 11x as much. So someone who came in with a 150 test (this was total, not free) would have ended at 1650 with an 1100% climb. Still crazy and hard to believe, but there were blood tests to show it. I'll have to find the links to them.
08-11-2007, 02:58 PM
08-11-2007, 06:24 PM
On a side note, Chuck, if you use DTH at 5-6 caps/day would Trib Test be a good idea for libido enhancement? I'm thinking that it would help with the drop in LH but maybe I'm wrong. Please let me know if you get the chance.
08-11-2007, 09:45 PM
DIESEL TEST 2010 had users showing a 90%-110% increase (say 400ng/dl to 850ng/dl) in free test and they were saying, "I got harder muscles, strength, blabla," so a 1100% rise should produce crazy results but most companies test their products probably on people coming off a cycle or have ridiculously low test levels, so like someone can go from 50 ng/dl to 550 ng/dl (ie normal) and they say, oh this product produces a 1100% rise in test levels. Its like how about you test product x on someone whos not coming off a cycle or with low test levels, someone over 500 ng/dl and report those results.
thats like saying increases fat burning by 800%.....yeah right.
08-11-2007, 10:36 PM
08-12-2007, 10:04 PM
ok, not the human study, but in rats, it doubled sperm count, LH up by about 70% FSH by 125% test by 165%
Nothing to sneeze at, but definitely way more expensive than DT2010. Heres a screenshot of it
Chuck, I kind of recall in one thread you mentioning possibly stacking DTH with one of your other products for max testosterone, was it 2010?
08-12-2007, 10:14 PM
Wow, the new AN Drive product sounds fukcing sick too. This is a bad time for me; there are so many good products now that I actually have a little money. I can't decide! Drive should be out soon so I may just wait a little. ARGH!!!
08-12-2007, 10:17 PM
It will help too once the ingredients in drive are announced to make that sort of decision
08-13-2007, 03:26 PM
08-13-2007, 03:29 PM
08-13-2007, 03:30 PM
08-13-2007, 09:39 PM
08-13-2007, 09:42 PM
08-13-2007, 10:45 PM
I thought there was a drive out. Preworkout products are a good market because you always need to change them up so its not like something where even if u love one product, u still gotta use something else during the year. Its my fav. cat. or sups cuz i dont need creatine. Im an old school dymetadrine 25/Ultimate Orange powerlifter
08-13-2007, 11:35 PM
We'll see what happens. I don't go crazy about anything until I get the empirical data. AN said this isn't revolutionary as far as ingredients, just the combination. Ether and NOS precursor were/are always at the top of that list too.
08-14-2007, 12:30 PM
08-15-2007, 08:44 PM
I don't use stimulants anymore except for occasional caffeine. Loud, heavy metal works fairly well on most days or getting into an argument with the wife.
On a side note, Chuck, does the latest version of Ether powder still need to be frozen to take the moisture out? Just wondering because I would like a go a round with Ether and DTH when I get the chance/money. DT and Ether still have to be one of the best all-around combos for strength.
08-15-2007, 10:30 PM
08-18-2007, 12:02 AM
ive also been looking to boost my test. levels so i started the NHA stack, along with Bulk Powerfull, and a male performance enhancer called Male Response. Its working great so far, and when thats all done i have AN's RMP and IGF-2
08-18-2007, 12:23 AM
08-18-2007, 10:36 AM
DTH + Ether would cost a little less and give pumps, test, etc. I really want to try this stack out soon. I can't do true stims anymore because of an occasional irregular heartbeat, so this would be the **** for me.
08-18-2007, 11:36 AM
08-19-2007, 08:38 PM
I have seen a bunch of different options listed through this thread but not sure if they apply to me.
I am 30, 200lbs 5'10 at 20% bf.
Looking to add size and strength and continue to further reduce fat. I have been back to the gym for a bit doing 40 minutes of HIT cardio 3x week. Weights 3 to 4 times a week. On weeks that I hit weights 3x I am active the 4th day (swimming, b-ball, etc)
What would be the best stack for me to try? I am looking to avoid steroids but if that is your recommendation I am willing to listen if you offer a PCT as well.
08-19-2007, 08:42 PM
08-20-2007, 09:17 AM
Opps, it would have been helpful to include what I am taking.
Lipo 6 or Hydroxycut or Stackers 3
08-20-2007, 09:23 AM
08-20-2007, 11:00 AM
08-20-2007, 04:19 PM
08-20-2007, 04:21 PM
On a side note, I am going to start a new diet next week called the Cheat to Lose Diet. It is different than any I have tried or seen before. I will post my results on it in another thread. If you are interested in finding out about it, you can look at it on cheattolosediet.com.
08-20-2007, 08:10 PM
My Diet is 40/40/20 car/protein/fat between 3000 and 4000k calories a day. I have reduced my body fat about 10% in the past 3 months.
I think I have nabbed the low hanging fruit ie muscle increase and fat loss at the same time and have to split the two into two different courses. Cycle of size and then cycle of fat loss.
I will research the suggestions you made. Heck, if you have anyothers I will research those as well even if it is diet or anything. I am attempting to put a bit more science and a better plan to my goals rather then the more hap-hazard approach I have been using.
One other question. On some threads I see people stating that a PCT is needed for supps like Jungle Warfare but then in the next thread I see Jungle Warefare being offered as a PCT. That confuses me However, I would like to avoid ***** tits, a sudden interest in Sandra Bullock movies, and crying myself to sleep at night because my butt looked big in my workout shorts. Do I need some type of mild PCT after a course of mild PH or the natty boosters? Is it possible to load up and overdose on natty boosters to the point of needing a PCT like 6-oxo?
08-20-2007, 09:30 PM
I left out another one too, X-factor. X-factor has no hormonal risks as its not hormonal at all. X-factor is really interesting a patented product that a few companies are starting to license now. That is your absolute lowest risk for a bulk. It has a couple of drawbacks - no anti-inflammatories while you are on it, limited fish oil, a couple of others that are in the FAQ for it in Molecular Nutrition's subforum. But its just a fatty acid like CLA, so VERY safe to take. A little expensive ($90-100/50 days) but not too bad. Pretty good studies on it, both on boards, but also a college study done on it. Overall expectation is somewhere between 5-12 lbs of fairly lean gains if you take in enough calories.
A nice thing about trying xfactor first is that you are supposed to go at least 8 weeks without taking it again after taking it. Not toxicity, but it has a real hard effectiveness curve. you get limited results the first 3 1/2 weeks, then its very effective for another 4 or so then tapers off. So it would be a decent idea to try and see how it works for you as a first something, then if you liked how it worked you could try something else in that waiting period between
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