Ph with OTC pct question

[HooliganNoire]

I was wondering if I can get any advice about taking a stronger ph, Like D-Nol, M1ad, Or Trestolone with a OTC pct?? I've cycled 1- Andro, M-Sten and Hexadrone with OTC pcts with no problems at all, Other then a little leathergy with the 1-Andro..I mean No sensitive nips,I Kept most of my gains after I got off it. Maybe I'm not estrogen sensitive but I'm sure with Trestolone I'm taking a chance. But then again Everybodys different lol, Any insight on the above ph's would be appreciated.

 

[franks009]

That's not why you pct. To hold off fat and bloating lol

 

[Sparta12]

My advice would be get a serm with your otc pct lol

 

[HooliganNoire]

OTC serm or Clomid, Nolvadex?

 

[HooliganNoire]

But but doesn't estrogen make you a wee puffy?

 

[D3x]

Clomid or nolva.. and serms help you to quickly restart your boys from shutdown.. an ai reduces estrogen, but a serm selectively activates some estrogen receptors to kinda trick your body and keep estrogen from exerting much effect on you which makes your body think you need to make more test so you can get the estrogen it isn't seeing

 

[HooliganNoire]

Hey thank you!! That's all I wanted to know

 

[D3x]

Hey thank you!! That's all I wanted to know

The OTC stuff may help a little, but it will not do even a quarter as much as a proper serm in ptc.. you likely didn't fully recover from those cycles unless there was a large gap between the cycles and even then likely some degree of shutdown lingered.. you always want to have a real serm for pct.. they're your testes.. you break them.. you can't order a new pair.. a real serm is typically even a little cheaper than the otc crap.. there's no reason to risk not having one in hand before you start a cycle..

 

[The Express 42]

Use a serm for sure! I don’t understand why people are scared to use them. The ph’s are much more toxic to the body lol

 

[D3x]

Use a serm for sure! I don’t understand why people are scared to use them. The ph’s are much more toxic to the body lol

Well the fact that it's cheaper to buy clomid or nolva.. or torem.. idk about ralox cuz I've never looked for it.. should make it a no brainer.. I mean maybe it's the taboo of ordering eeebil research chems..

 

[HooliganNoire]

Isn't a real serm illegal? I mean I have to Order it from overseas and customs shows up at my door?, yes I know' Bitcoin and don't open for bout 2 weeks" yada yada... If that's was the case I would just get real gear with my, Ehhh I think I'll just stick with what's working and not take a chance, And yes I only do bout 2 cycles a year, I'm poor.. Appreciate the info though

 

[D3x]

If you didn't understand what I posted earlier.. your OTC pct products aren't working.. just cuz you didn't get fat and other minor symptoms does not mean your hpta is no longer suppressed..you don't need bitcoins.. or darkweb.. or anything shady really.. just need to do more research..

 

[LeanEngineer]

Definitely pick up nolva or clomid as others have said. Safest way to get your hormones back to normal after a cycle.

 

[AntM1564]

Definitely pick up nolva or clomid as others have said. Safest way to get your hormones back to normal after a cycle.

Cheaper too. Most of the time, pharma grade SERMS are roughly the same price, give or take.

 

[fightnews]

I was wondering if I can get any advice about taking a stronger ph, Like D-Nol, M1ad, Or Trestolone with a OTC pct?? I've cycled 1- Andro, M-Sten and Hexadrone with OTC pcts with no problems at all, Other then a little leathergy with the 1-Andro..I mean No sensitive nips,I Kept most of my gains after I got off it. Maybe I'm not estrogen sensitive but I'm sure with Trestolone I'm taking a chance. But then again Everybodys different lol, Any insight on the above ph's would be appreciated.

dont take anything methylated you will only hurt yourself its not worth the temporary gainz, stick to the 1ad 4ad stuff its good enough it works my advice

 

[fightnews]

Use a serm for sure! I don’t understand why people are scared to use them. The ph’s are much more toxic to the body lol

Absolutely methylated prohormones are like poison in a bottle. Better off doing test when it comes down to it

 

[JoePaul39]

I was wondering if I can get any advice about taking a stronger ph, Like D-Nol, M1ad, Or Trestolone with a OTC pct?? I've cycled 1- Andro, M-Sten and Hexadrone with OTC pcts with no problems at all, Other then a little leathergy with the 1-Andro..I mean No sensitive nips,I Kept most of my gains after I got off it. Maybe I'm not estrogen sensitive but I'm sure with Trestolone I'm taking a chance. But then again Everybodys different lol, Any insight on the above ph's would be appreciated.

How did your Hexadrone cycle go? Did you use it as a stand alone? Any better than 1 andro?

 

[Derek Wilson]

Yeah, SERM with your OTC!