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[Nick1142]

Hey guys, I'm thinking of running HCGENERATE as a standalone. I'm 20 years old and I know most will say my test levels are at their peak right now but I'm not so sure. Regrettably, I've taken some PH's in the past and ended up having surgery for gyno 2 years ago. Havn't taken anything since but almost 2 months ago it started to come back out of nowhere. Now I'm thinking my hormones are still out of whack. I'm on nolva right now to combat gyno but does anyone think HCGENERATE would be beneficial? If nothing more I just want to bring my test levels back if they're down. Any advice is appreciated.

 

[TexasLifter89]

Why would you not just buy a Private MD Labs hormone panel and get tested... quit playing the guessing game at your age.

 

[Nick1142]

Didn't know I could do that. Where would I get it?

 

[TexasLifter89]

Didn't know I could do that. Where would I get it?

privateMDlabs.com female hormone panel kit.

 

[rascal14]

Please never purchase any product made by those idiots.

 

[booneman77]

How can gyno come back after surgery? Did they not just remove the gland???

 

[Nick1142]

Honestly I always felt like there was still some of the gland left in there after surgery. Obviously I'm no doctor so I don't know for sure but I just felt like I could still feel some extra tissue in there even before it flared up again. Still doesn't explain why it took two years to randomly flare up again though

 

[Nick1142]

N2BM?

 

[TexasLifter89]

Honestly I always felt like there was still some of the glance left in there after surgery. Obviously I'm no doctor so I don't know for sure but I just felt like I could still feel some extra tissue in there even before it flared up again. Still doesn't explain why it took two years to randomly flare up again though

It's very possible. Often times they just remove the tissue and not the complete gland tissue. I would find out if you can what approach they took.

 

[Nick1142]

Yeah I was thinking of emailing the surgeon about it. I'm just not trying to have to go through that whole process again. **** was the worst

 

[TexasLifter89]

Yeah I was thinking of emailing the surgeon about it. I'm just not trying to have to go through that whole process again. **** was the worst

then dont take ****, find out what they did for your surgery and get blood work done.

That lets you know:

1) If it can in fact be rebound gyno
2) If you have rebound, why. From these results you can talk to a doc and get the next steps.

 

[rascal14]

N2BM?

Yes. There are much better options for much better prices, from honest companies.

 

[Nick1142]

No worries, I learned my lesson the hard way.

 

[Nick1142]

Also, will nolva have any effects on the blood test results?

 

[TexasLifter89]

Also, will nolva have any effects on the blood test yes. Why are you running nolva?

 

[Nick1142]

Like I said earlier it's to combat the gyno

 

[bowly]

Nick you need to get blood work done..from what i have heard is in most gyno surgeries only part gland is removed as if they remove the entire gland then it leads to a vacuum which they then have to fill with a packing which would be costly..

Gyno can happen due to many reasons most imp being low test..increased body fat..use of hairloss drugs like finasteride..

do u drink alcohol with sugary mixers or do you have high bf percentage

 

[luelinks]

If it's from NTBM, it's not worth it.

If you want something to help you with test boost nothing will beat 3g of DAA per day. It is super cheap and works wonderful and scientifically proven.

 

[vujade]

Like others have suggested get some Bloodwork done from PrivateMDlabs. Only about $60
and you get your results back in a day or two.

 

[Nick1142]

Alcohol is usually beer and I'm usually around 10% BF

 

[UncleSarm]

If it's from NTBM, it's not worth it.

If you want something to help you with test boost nothing will beat 3g of DAA per day. It is super cheap and works wonderful and scientifically proven.

Most natural test boosters won't be that effective if you're close to your natural baseline.
Nick1142 like many have said, get a bloods done. That way you have hard evidence that you can act on.

 

[Nick1142]

And say the tests show I have low test levels, what would be standard protocol for treating that?

 

[rascal14]

And say the tests show I have low test levels, what would be standard protocol for treating that?

Clomid, going to the Dr to find out why your test levels are low.

 

[UncleSarm]

And say the tests show I have low test levels, what would be standard protocol for treating that?

TRT maybe if your doc decides it's too low, but having just noticed that you're 167lbs at 5'5", I'm going to bet it's not that low.

 

[Nick1142]

If it isn't low test then what could've cause the gyno to randomly flare up 2 years after surgery

 

[Lynks8]

If you want something to help you with test boost nothing will beat 3g of DAA per day. It is super cheap and works wonderful and scientifically proven.

I would respectfully disagree.

https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-015-0078-7

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0271531713001735

 

[UncleSarm]

If you want something to help you with test boost nothing will beat 3g of DAA per day. It is super cheap and works wonderful and scientifically proven.

I would respectfully disagree.

https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-015-0078-7

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0271531713001735

Yup, "increased total testosterone levels in sedentary men". I read something similar in other studies. If you are working out, your T levels should be at your optimal (certainly compared to sedentary people). And pretty much, the closer your T levels are to your natural baseline, the less effective it gets. If you are suppressed, then you will see some benefits, but someone on AM indicated that using it in PCT, it's benefits drop drastically after the first two weeks, as your T levels rise. Thumb in the air estimate.

 

[The_Old_Guy]

If it isn't low test then what could've cause the gyno to randomly flare up 2 years after surgery

How would low Testosterone cause Gynecomastia? Low T doesn't automatically equal high E. Stop the Tamoxifen, wait 8 weeks, go get your blood drawn, consult a physician if any markers are out of range.

 

[storm 011]

Yup, "increased total testosterone levels in sedentary men". I read something similar in other studies. If you are working out, your T levels should be at your optimal (certainly compared to sedentary people). And pretty much, the closer your T levels are to your natural baseline, the less effective it gets. If you are suppressed, then you will see some benefits, but someone on AM indicated that using it in PCT, it's benefits drop drastically after the first two weeks, as your T levels rise. Thumb in the air estimate.

^this^

 

[ELROCK]

TRT maybe if your doc decides it's too low, but having just noticed that you're 167lbs at 5'5", I'm going to bet it's not that low.

He is way to young to jump on TRT. I would get the bloodwork done then try and figure out the cause and try to correct that.

 

[storm 011]

Please never purchase any product made by those idiots.

why should be idiots?
you have never used their products to justify this criticism?

 

[rascal14]

why should be idiots?
you have never used their products to justify this criticism?

I don't need to waste an absurd amount of money to know that I can get the same product for much cheaper. I'm capable of reading a label.

They preach the "toxicity" of HCG to scare people into buying their overpriced products.