I've never had a problem with anyone talking **** to me, even when I was an idiot n00b. I'd reckon that it had something to do with your attitude. Most people who come in like you post research papers and other data to back up their claims if they're outnumbered, not get all bitchy.
I agree whole heartedly*sp. And idiot newb is def not how I'd classify myself. And I don't recall coping an attitude w anyone until I was on the defensive.
I try to err on the side of what science has proven and less on bro-science. And I always Try not have an attitude or even react, but it was just one of those days, so I happily withdraw myself from this topic/thread as far as posting goes and wish you all the best.
Also, I truly wish you all the best in your endeavors and health, again, one of those days. So I will apologize for letting someone's opinion of me, who doesn't even know me, get to me (too many "me"s I know lol).
And lastly, it was the dosage of clen that was horrible for arteries iirc, not so much the frequency. I'll see if I can find the write up. A bit busy atm w pituitary tumor and such so if I find it cool. If not, Google and it'll come up somewhere. But there's a reason it was removed from the market, bc obv big pharma wants as much money as possible.
Good day to all and to all a good google search. Out.
Edited- the reason I was so "simple" or "stupid" about heart enlargement is bc this is after all under the supplement forum, which a lot of ture newbs may be reading and don't want them thinking clen is the end all be all of fat loss/ only way to go. And also, it has been shown time and time again that the way we lift enlarges the heart to a degree to where if we needed a transplant one day, things could become a problem, etc. So b4 you bash just try to consider who we're giving info to.
And I also think it's posts like these that make it so hard for some of very new guys to ask questions- fear of being ridiculed. But wtvr makes you feel superior.