anything new with the non hormonal anabolics

[rowz4broz]

havent visited this board in awhile and have fallen off on whats hot in the sup industry.

anything new and effective in the natty anabolics area


if not, any recommendations nocedrene(sp?) vs alphamine

 

[kboxer7]

(-)epi (Ep1C, EpiPlex, etc....)

Laxogenin (DermaStr3ngth, new Laxo product coming out SOON that will improve bioavailability a LOT)

PA (phosphatidic acid) (New PA/ergogenic coming out soon, Soy Granuals, etc)

ArA (xgels)


Those would be the top 4; (in no particular order)

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

nothing too new in terms of natty anabolics. Laxogen products, Ep1c Unleashed (epicatechin), and Phosphadic acid products are rising in popularity and are being produced a lot more frequently now!

As for the fat burner, maybe looking OxyMax XT? It contains a good dosage of F95, amento to help keep up strength, a crazy good mood boosting blend, and is mid-stim ranged.

 

[LeanEngineer]

I'd recommend norcodrene. You could check out a norcodrene/shift stack. Maybe not full does on both but together at lower dosage they would be great.

As far as natty supps I would recommend anafuse. It's somewhat newer and I like it. epi 2.0 is good as well. there's ep1c unleashed and the usually abe, x gels follidrone are always good.

 

[Driven2lift]

For all your staples and more I suggest Ergonine as the base of a natty stack like this.

If its been a while for you, check it out at athletixsports.com
9 ergogens all at studied doses in one scoop/day for under $1/day.

Right now with a BOGO too, you could grab amentoflavone to go with this stack.
+10% off with driven.

Tons if logs/reviews up here now too




On top of that, (if you choose) I would suggest one of:

ARA
PEScience ABE
PA

 

[Driven2lift]

havent visited this board in awhile and have fallen off on whats hot in the sup industry.

anything new and effective in the natty anabolics area


if not, any recommendations nocedrene(sp?) vs alphamine

As for the Norcodrene vs. alphamine:

Alphamine is often said to hit harder/faster and is a great tasting powder. I opt this route if I want a good stim kick

Norcodrene wins on appetite suppression for me, which gives it an edge on effectiveness in my case.

 

[AndrewMcD]

(-)epi (Ep1C, EpiPlex, etc....)

Laxogenin (DermaStr3ngth, new Laxo product coming out SOON that will improve bioavailability a LOT)

PA (phosphatidic acid) (Phosphas1ze coming out soon, Soy Granuals, etc)

ArA (xgels)


Those would be the top 4; (in no particular order)

How soon is SOON? Was just about to buy some Strength!

 

[kboxer7]

How soon is SOON? Was just about to buy some Strength!

Not entirely sure.

But if you can't wait, then at least get the TD for better bioavailability. I'm a rep and I'll tell you I don't like oral Laxo because of bioavailability issues.

The new version is going to blow the old one out of the water in terms of bioavailability (which is the biggest prob with Laxo...aside from quality extract).

P.S. I'll do my best to get clearance from the powers that be on at least a rough ETA for you.

 

[Jiigzz]

Fearn soy granules and and ARA product like Xgels or X factor.

Itl blow your mind

 

[AndrewMcD]

Not entirely sure.

But if you can't wait, then at least get the TD for better bioavailability. I'm a rep and I'll tell you I don't like oral Laxo because of bioavailability issues.

The new version is going to blow the old one out of the water in terms of bioavailability (which is the biggest prob with Laxo...aside from quality extract).

P.S. I'll do my best to get clearance from the powers that be on at least a rough ETA for you.

Thanks man I really apprecite it! Im just going to wait since I go through 2 bottles of the TD a month haha

 

[vujade]

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Ecdysterone and Laxogenin

PM for discounts

 

[slimsaw00]

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PM sent brother!

 

[vujade]

PM sent brother!

Replied bro.. you're going to like it

 

[aaronuconn]

AnaBeta Elite from PEScience is still top dog, IMO.

X-Gels is also an excellent choice.

Stack the two.

 

[Olympus Labs]

How soon is SOON? Was just about to buy some Strength!

3-4 weeks

 

[rowz4broz]

Fearn soy granules and and ARA product like Xgels or X factor.

Itl blow your mind

I've head a lot of positive stuff about PA

my problem is that i have pesky gyno i can't shake and the last thing i want to do is further aggravate it (or else i would have turned to PH already)

to my knowledge PA (soy) can have a negative impact on gyno

 

[rowz4broz]

AnaBeta Elite from PEScience is still top dog, IMO.

X-Gels is also an excellent choice.

Stack the two.

anabeta looks interesting to me. i ran xgels and wasn't impressed

 

[rowz4broz]

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PM for discounts

haven't heard too much about this ingredient. gonna look into this

 

[vujade]

haven't heard too much about this ingredient. gonna look into this

Danes knows a lot about Ecdysterones

 

[Danes]

Danes knows a lot about Ecdysterones

Sending him PM

 

[Todd Garner]

Sending him PM

Im behind on Ecdysterones myself, copy and paste PM to me as well if you have time.

 

[Danes]

Im behind on Ecdysterones myself, copy and paste PM to me as well if you have time.

Sure!

 

[rowz4broz]

Sending him PM

this stuff sounds crazy


anyone use it?

 

[Danes]

this stuff sounds crazy


anyone use it?

I ordered 6 bottles of Most wanted thru a TGB rep but he fooled me. So I havent tried yet but really want to try it so I can compare it to a stuff I used to get from ICPS

 

[bert45]

anabeta looks interesting to me. i ran xgels and wasn't impressed

Anabeta is the ish

 

[megadeth]

Evomuse Myosynergy Elite, BMP, Testruction

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

SL (Fearns) will be out shortly 

 

[infinitepower]

Phosphas1ze sounds interesting

 

[rowz4broz]

Phosphas1ze will be our shortly ����

got a label?

 

[infinitepower]

Sending him PM

Hey Danes. How come all the stuff I hear about ecdysterones is negative? Im not to familiar with them myself.

 

[kboxer7]

got a label?

Not yet, but hang tight. It's coming soon!

 

[Danes]

Hey Danes. How come all the stuff I hear about ecdysterones is negative? Im not to familiar with them myself.

1. Quality (quality ecdysteroids are expencive).
2. Bioavailability and absorption issues. Russian scientists found out that bioavailability issues are due to weak adsorption in the gastrointestinal tract

If you get quality stuff+ adding the right bioavailability booster, I will say it is one of the most potent natty anabolics

 

[slin]

So I guess you have gotten your hands on some quality Ecdy? and found a way to fix bioavailability? wanna share some of your personal stack

 

[Danes]

So I guess you have gotten your hands on some quality Ecdy? and found a way to fix bioavailability? wanna share some of your personal stack

Getting quality ecdy/ecdysteroids is not problem at all. Getting the ultimate delivery method is worse.but I am near the end of my research

 

[AndrewMcD]

Getting quality ecdy/ecdysteroids is not problem at all. Getting the ultimate delivery method is worse.but I am near the end of my research

Keep us posted brother!

 

[Danes]

Keep us posted brother!

Russian scientists are not so cooperative lol

 

[Young Gotti]

about to try BMP and PA together

 

[Bartmac36]

Which natty anabolic would you guys say is best for pure strength?

 

[bert45]

Which natty anabolic would you guys say is best for pure strength?

Anabeta + food

 

[jgntyce]

Anabeta + food

Been on Anabeta elite for the past couple of weeks and my muscle mass and strength have definitley increased!

 

[Danes]

Which natty anabolic would you guys say is best for pure strength?

For me , HMB FA and Plasma Muscle worked amazing for strength

 

[machinehead]

Yeah, Danes, how is the solo Plasma Muscle run going?

 

[Danes]

Yeah, Danes, how is the solo Plasma Muscle run going?

Plasma Muscle is really good supplement and really worth trying.

-increased musclefullness
-amazing pumps
-increased Strength gains
-i really added size without changing diet or workout routine.

It seems I responded pretty good to PeakATP. There are plenty of studies done on PeakATP and it works.
It contain optiNOs and here is some info if you havent seen it :

What is/are optiNOs?

optiNOs® is a patent-pending blend of three ingredients:*Cissus,*Curcuma, & Ajowan Extract. The first clue as to what optiNOs would be made of came when MT dropped the code name “LI89034F3.” Doing a little searching on the Google patents page reveals these details in regards to the exact composition of this revolutionary ingredient, “The composition-8 (LI89034F3) was prepared by combining the ethanol extract ofCissus quadrangularis*(LI05704), methanol extract of*Curcuma longa*(LI09703) and ethanol extract*Trachyspermum ammi*(LI 12304), in the ratio of 2: 1:2″.

 

[afluck410]

+1 for anabeta elite
I loved that ****, I used the OG ABE that had arimistane in it.. really helped me recomp
I was also stacking it with alphamine

 

[glosss]

Plasma Muscle is really good supplement and really worth trying.

-increased musclefullness
-amazing pumps
-increased Strength gains
-i really added size without changing diet or workout routine.

It seems I responded pretty good to PeakATP. There are plenty of studies done on PeakATP and it works.
It contain optiNOs and here is some info if you havent seen it :

What is/are optiNOs?

optiNOs® is a patent-pending blend of three ingredients:*Cissus,*Curcuma, & Ajowan Extract. The first clue as to what optiNOs would be made of came when MT dropped the code name “LI89034F3.” Doing a little searching on the Google patents page reveals these details in regards to the exact composition of this revolutionary ingredient, “The composition-8 (LI89034F3) was prepared by combining the ethanol extract ofCissus quadrangularis*(LI05704), methanol extract of*Curcuma longa*(LI09703) and ethanol extract*Trachyspermum ammi*(LI 12304), in the ratio of 2: 1:2″.

Whats some of the best stuff youve tried.

Im running epi + laxo, so anything better than that would be cool

 

[infinitepower]

Plasma Muscle is really good supplement and really worth trying.

-increased musclefullness
-amazing pumps
-increased Strength gains
-i really added size without changing diet or workout routine.

It seems I responded pretty good to PeakATP. There are plenty of studies done on PeakATP and it works.
It contain optiNOs and here is some info if you havent seen it :

What is/are optiNOs?

optiNOs® is a patent-pending blend of three ingredients:*Cissus,*Curcuma, & Ajowan Extract. The first clue as to what optiNOs would be made of came when MT dropped the code name “LI89034F3.” Doing a little searching on the Google patents page reveals these details in regards to the exact composition of this revolutionary ingredient, “The composition-8 (LI89034F3) was prepared by combining the ethanol extract ofCissus quadrangularis*(LI05704), methanol extract of*Curcuma longa*(LI09703) and ethanol extract*Trachyspermum ammi*(LI 12304), in the ratio of 2: 1:2″.

Plasma muscle? from muscletech? So hard to believe their supps, they claim you can gain 10ibs on almost all their products. Common Danes, put the squeeze on those Russian scientists, get us something good not just dat der muscletech

 

[machinehead]

It is lbm that they claim, not stage weight if you were competing and lost none during dieting. Still, their new stuff is good and much better values than Cell-Tech years ago.

 

[alland]

Plasma muscle? from muscletech? So hard to believe their supps, they claim you can gain 10ibs on almost all their products. Common Danes, put the squeeze on those Russian scientists, get us something good not just dat der muscletech

Muscletech is a lot better than it used to be.

 

[glosss]

has anyone actually tried dat der muscletech clearmuscle?

Im thinking or trying it for the sake of it.

 

[Danes]

has anyone actually tried dat der muscletech clearmuscle?

Im thinking or trying it for the sake of it.

Actually very good product