Best single pump ingredient?

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I personally think agmatine sulfate at 1g pre workout.has anyone tried dosing agmatine and citrulline malate together? Or any other bulk supplement that would help?
 
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I personally think agmatine sulfate at 1g pre workout.has anyone tried dosing agmatine and citrulline malate together? Or any other bulk supplement that would help?
They come together in many products
Have also done bulk

My #1 is nitrates
 
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They come together in many products
Have also done bulk

My #1 is nitrates
I'm looking to add just a single ingredient to my pre now that has a citrulline malate. What nitrate do you think would be best?
 
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I'm looking to add just a single ingredient to my pre now that has a citrulline malate. What nitrate do you think would be best?
If you're going bulk nitrates are harder

One company makes a capsulated one solo

1g Agmatine may be easiest
 
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Arginine Nitrate
why? its a nitrate inhibitor meaning it wont build up a nitrate tolerance over time. That is another reason why the folks at PES put it in High Volume. Its a good product and has some merit behind it
Other ones to consider would be Potassium and Creatine nitrate.

besides that
CM ~ 6-8g dose
Agmatine in a 1-1.5g Dose
Hydromax (Glycerol) ~ 1g-1.5g

would be 3 key ingredients for a Pump
 
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^^Definitely agree with the above, you throw all that together and maybe some noxygen and it would be a great stack!
 
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^^Definitely agree with the above, you throw all that together and maybe some noxygen and it would be a great stack!
Noxygen is sodium nitrate + beet root

Would be a great stack and cheap
 
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Arginine Nitrate
why? its a nitrate inhibitor meaning it wont build up a nitrate tolerance over time. That is another reason why the folks at PES put it in High Volume. Its a good product and has some merit behind it
Other ones to consider would be Potassium and Creatine nitrate.

besides that
CM ~ 6-8g dose
Agmatine in a 1-1.5g Dose
Hydromax (Glycerol) ~ 1g-1.5g

would be 3 key ingredients for a Pump
If I'm taking 6 g of cm would I need the 1g of agmatine or would .5g work?

Also hv is some awesome stuff
 
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If I'm taking 6 g of cm would I need the 1g of agmatine or would .5g work? Also hv is some awesome stuff
Still go 1g
If the CM is 2:1 that's 4g citrulline

Not overly high to lower stacked ingredients
 
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Citrulline Malate
Agmatine
Glycerol

Then you have other ingredients that aren't specific for vasodilation but have the side benefit of causing such responses
 
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Still go 1g
If the CM is 2:1 that's 4g citrulline

Not overly high to lower stacked ingredients
Just make sure it's bonded vs blended. That makes all the difference
 
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Arginine Nitrate
why? its a nitrate inhibitor meaning it wont build up a nitrate tolerance over time. That is another reason why the folks at PES put it in High Volume. Its a good product and has some merit behind it
Other ones to consider would be Potassium and Creatine nitrate.

besides that
CM ~ 6-8g dose
Agmatine in a 1-1.5g Dose
Hydromax (Glycerol) ~ 1g-1.5g

would be 3 key ingredients for a Pump
Citrulline Malate
Agmatine
Glycerol

Then you have other ingredients that aren't specific for vasodilation but have the side benefit of causing such responses
glad were on the same page :)
 
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Arginine Nitrate FTW game over
 

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I just bought some Potassium Nirtate from iForce. 4 caps about an hour pwo seem good?

Also, are there any other single nitrate products out there like the one of iForce?
 
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ok lets just get right to it:

mod edit: supplements.

However:

Kallidinogenase (vasodilator)
and/or
Arginine Butyrate (NO boost)

-these both provide excellent pump and stack well. You can find both of these in Antaeus Labs Thunderbolt.



otherwise, for OTC powder I find Glycerol Monosterate to be very very good.



mod edit: keep it to supplements.
 
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GPLC might be worth looking into. This is an older study that elaborates on it's potential "Comparison of pre-workout nitric oxide stimulating dietary supplements on skeletal muscle oxygen saturation, blood nitrate/nitrite, lipid peroxidation, and upper body exercise performance in resistance trained men" jissn.com/content/7/1/16
 
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personally for me....its always been agmatine as my #1 pump ingredient

I would probably put nitrates as my #2
 
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Conqu3r PRE is killer IMO
 

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I loved the first time I used creative nitrate.
 

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GPLC might be worth looking into. This is an older study that elaborates on it's potential "Comparison of pre-workout nitric oxide stimulating dietary supplements on skeletal muscle oxygen saturation, blood nitrate/nitrite, lipid peroxidation, and upper body exercise performance in resistance trained men" jissn.com/content/7/1/16
GPLC is pretty crazy expensive for what it is, and exhibits no benefits that you wouldn't otherwise see supplementing:

-Glycine
and
-PLCAR
 
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I used noxygen and nitramine together for the first time the other day and the pumps were wicked!
 

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