Sounds like bull****. Ruthless is a sister company of **** and there isn't much they won't do to sell product. Nate Was exposed years ago for the fraud he is, and even faked his military record.
There is a reason why their transdermal dhea is over $100 a bottle and Dermacrine is less than $40. And dermacrine is superior from the carrier to the actual pump(best on market) not to mention that I trust BPS.