Tudca - so expensive - what's the best deal?

organometal · Jan 8, 2015

I know I need Tudca for liver support, but wow is it expensive. Most supps with it come out to $2 or more a gram.

What's supp is the best bang for my buck? Any stores with great Tudca deals right now?

frankz2 · Jan 8, 2015

organometal said:
I know I need Tudca for liver support, but wow is it expensive. Most supps with it come out to $2 or more a gram. What's supp is the best bang for my buck? Any stores with great Tudca deals right now?

Were you looking for TUDCA solo or as a component? Over at Orbit with code SOCIAL our TUDCA works out to $1.65 per gram.

Jackedjack · Jan 8, 2015

organometal said:
I know I need Tudca for liver support, but wow is it expensive. Most supps with it come out to $2 or more a gram. What's supp is the best bang for my buck? Any stores with great Tudca deals right now?

Idk what stores have great deals but the two beat bang for your buck tudca product and general liver care are Aegis from Anaetus Labs and Tudca from olympus labs. I believe orbit is having a 10% off with promo code social
Edit: just saw the post above me, he has the right idea

organometal · Jan 8, 2015

Tudca as part of a mix is fine with me. Saves me the trouble of buying hawthorn or nac, or whatever by itself.

I am still waiting on a pre-dasca order from orbit, but I can head over. The social code will help a lot.

CJ_Xfit89 · Jan 8, 2015

Arimicare Pro by OL.
Boom

Afi140 · Jan 8, 2015

Yeah TUDCA is expensive to source so anything "cheap" probably isn't legit. Either way tudca is worth it imho. You do need a a hefty dose for it to be effective (200mg isn't going to cut it)

http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=TUDCA

frankz2 · Jan 8, 2015

EBF_2356 said:
Arimicare Pro by OL. Boom

Doing my job for me. Obviously in a comprehensive supp that'd be my recommendation but given the per gram cost analysis went for bulk.

Jiigzz · Jan 9, 2015

organometal said:
Tudca as part of a mix is fine with me. Saves me the trouble of buying hawthorn or nac, or whatever by itself.

I am still waiting on a pre-dasca order from orbit, but I can head over. The social code will help a lot.

Most supps with Tudca in the blend will have it dosed too low for any real effect.

Your best bet would to be to buy it bulk and add it to CEL cycle assist or something similar

mr.cooper69 · Jan 9, 2015

Olympus labs makes the cheapest quality tudca

heavylifter33 · Jan 9, 2015

mr.cooper69 said:
Olympus labs makes the cheapest quality tudca

They actually have documentation of quality? Would be one of the first.

JPSwole · Jan 9, 2015

Anybody try Premium Powdwers Tudca its about $36 bucks @ mrsupps with free shipping?

Afi140 · Jan 9, 2015

Rhadam said:
They actually have documentation of quality? Would be one of the first.

they started a thread after all that stuff went down posting labs but I haven't visited the thread in a while.

Afi140 · Jan 9, 2015

Rhadam here it is. http://anabolicminds.com/forum/olympus-labs/247753-olympus-labs-announcement.html

organometal · Jan 9, 2015

I had never seen the OL testing thread. Very cool.

Cycle assist plus bulk Tudca seems the most sensible path I guess, but think I'll wait for a sale - don't need it for a month or so.

Segansational · Jan 9, 2015

Afi140 said:
Rhadam here it is. http://anabolicminds.com/forum/olympus-labs/247753-olympus-labs-announcement.html

Thanks for posting.

We pride ourselves on being able to provide quality and affordability on all of our products. We all realize this is not an inexpensive lifestyle. Food, supplements, equipment, etc. On top of all the other expenses one might have.

Volvo140G · Feb 26, 2015

Old thread, but Antaeus labs Aegis is phenomonal liver protection for about $40 a month...

vujade · Feb 27, 2015

mr.cooper69 said:
Olympus labs makes the cheapest quality tudca

Thats a great endorsement from you MrCooper.

Not doubting you or OL, i love their products..!

I would just like to know why you have such confidence in their Tudca that your able to make
that statement about the quality...?

Volvo140G · Feb 27, 2015

Aegis Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings per Container: 180

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Tauroursodeoxycholic Acid 85 mg **
Polyenylphosphatidylcholine 200 mg **
Vitamin B6 3 mg 150%

Buy some NAC (cheap) to stack and you'll come out cheaper than OL Tudca and enjoy superior liver care!

Gutterpump · Feb 27, 2015

Volvo140G said:
Aegis Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings per Container: 180

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Tauroursodeoxycholic Acid 85 mg **
Polyenylphosphatidylcholine 200 mg **
Vitamin B6 3 mg 150%

Buy some NAC (cheap) to stack and you'll come out cheaper than OL Tudca and enjoy superior liver care!

Pretty amazing combo with the NAC. If you are willing to spend a bit more, you can also add NA-RALA with the NAC, plus the TUDCA supp, and you'll be golden. Pretty superior liver health stack right there.

organometal · Feb 27, 2015

Anybody ever try LGI damage control? It has a great profile (below) but I don't know their reputation.

Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 4 Capsules
Servings per container: 30
Amounts per serving %DV
N-acetyl L-Cysteine (NAC) 500mg **
Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10 Natural/Ubidecarenone) 100mg **
Alpha Lipoic Acid 150mg **
Hawthorne Berry 200mg **
Celery Seed 75mg **
Saw Palmetto (std. min 18% fatty acids)(berries) 200mg **
Quercetin Anhydrous (min. 95%) HPLC 150mg **
SAMe 52% (S-Adenosyl Methionine Tosylate Disulfate) 400mg **
Bupleurum Powder 500mg **
TUDCA Sodium (as Tauroursodeoxycholic Acid Sodium) 200mg **
**(DV)Daily Value Not Established
Other Ingredients: Silicified Microcrystalline Cellulose (Nutrasolv 90- JRS Pharma) , Maltodextrin M-500,

Gutterpump · Feb 27, 2015

It looks good, but I like to dose NAC at 600mg twice daily.
NA-RALA is far superior to regular unstable ALA. I like to dose NA-RALA at around 200+mg twice daily with NAC.
SAMe is a great addition, something I usually also add.
TUDCA / UDCA, I like to dose a bit higher than this. I personally use more like 300mg twice daily.

The other items look like traditional oral cycle support supps.

Gutterpump · Feb 27, 2015

Supps like this that incorporate several items are great ways to save money though, and are effective.

vujade · Feb 27, 2015

i usually use LGI Damage Control stacked with AL Aegis for the added Tudca.

Usually pick up Damage Control for $30 a bottle and buy 2 bottles for an 8 week cycle.
And 1 bottle of Aegis for $40 which will last 8 weeks when adding it to Damage Control.

So basically $100 for 2 months worth of complete cycle support

The_Old_Guy · Feb 27, 2015

There *is* a study showing 10-13mg/day for 90 days works:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8541578

Gutterpump · Feb 27, 2015

I typically use straight UDCA, so I'm not sure how the dosage compared to TUDCA.
I believe I've read a report saying that a preventative dose of UDCA is 200-300mg a day. A treatment dose for an obstruction is much higher.

vujade · Feb 27, 2015

Gutterpump said:
I typically use straight UDCA, so I'm not sure how the dosage compared to TUDCA.
I believe I've read a report saying that a preventative dose of UDCA is 200-300mg a day. A treatment dose for an obstruction is much higher.

ive read that a preventative dosage of Tudca is 250-500mg per day and a treatment dose starts @ 1000mg per day.

So udca is probably a little stronger from what I understand...

Volvo140G · Feb 27, 2015

Where's your udca come from
Gutterpump?

Gutterpump · Feb 27, 2015

India. Pharma grade. All I can say

heavylifter33 · Feb 27, 2015

vujade said:
ive read that a preventative dosage of Tudca is 250-500mg per day and a treatment dose starts @ 1000mg per day.

So udca is probably a little stronger from what I understand...

Treatment is right around 1g a day, iirc that's the science i read. Preventative i thought was right at 500mg.

I don't see spending more money on a product that incorporates 100-200mg of TUDCA per serving. You're better off buying CEL Cycle Support and going with that. The more hepatotoxicity is studied, we've learned that damage from oral steroids is actually less than once thought. However, i still think that appropriate doses of TUDCA is a solid addition.

mr.cooper69 · Feb 27, 2015

vujade said:
ive read that a preventative dosage of Tudca is 250-500mg per day and a treatment dose starts @ 1000mg per day.

So udca is probably a little stronger from what I understand...

TUDCA is actually more effective. The molecule just weighs more...

mr.cooper69 · Feb 27, 2015

To reiterate, a liver panel consists of, among other values, bilirubin and AST/ALT.

TUDCA is used to lower bilirubin (cholestatic liver injury).

NAC is used to lower AST?ALT (hepatocellular liver injury).

There is some overlap but they are different forms of microscopic organ damage ultimately

mw1 · Feb 27, 2015

Rhadam said:
Treatment is right around 1g a day, iirc that's the science i read. Preventative i thought was right at 500mg.

I don't see spending more money on a product that incorporates 100-200mg of TUDCA per serving. You're better off buying CEL Cycle Support and going with that. The more hepatotoxicity is studied, we've learned that damage from oral steroids is actually less than once thought. However, i still think that appropriate doses of TUDCA is a solid addition.

Speaking of CEL Cycle Assist these are the new labels .

jbryand101b · Feb 28, 2015

It should come with a nose plug and warning, do not open capsules an dump contents in mouth

Drakee · Feb 28, 2015

mr.cooper69 said:
To reiterate, a liver panel consists of, among other values, bilirubin and AST/ALT.

TUDCA is used to lower bilirubin (cholestatic liver injury).

NAC is used to lower AST?ALT (hepatocellular liver injury).

There is some overlap but they are different forms of microscopic organ damage ultimately

What is the best quality tudca?

Segansational · Feb 28, 2015

Drakee said:
What is the best quality tudca?

Coop already answered that question on the other page, where you already thanked him for the response...

jbryand101b · Feb 28, 2015

Drakee said:
What is the best quality tudca?

It isn't out yet, but soon, keep your eyes peeled brother.

Segansational said:
Coop already answered that question on the other page, where you already thanked him for the response...

Did he.....hmmmm?

Is it cheapest quality, or cheapest & quality?

Hmmmmmm......

Segansational · Feb 28, 2015

jbryand101b said:
It isn't out yet, but soon, keep your eyes peeled brother.

Did he.....hmmmm?

Is it cheapest quality, or cheapest & quality?

Hmmmmmm......

Quality, and cost-effective. We are one of the few companies that tests and publicly discloses our results. There`s a reason we`ve made a name for ourselves in this industry. But in the end it`s up to the consumer`s choice on where he or she decides to spend his or her money.

jbryand101b · Feb 28, 2015

Segansational said:
Quality, and cost-effective. We are one of the few companies that tests and publicly discloses our results. There`s a reason we`ve made a name for ourselves in this industry. But in the end it`s up to the consumer`s choice on where he or she decides to spend his or her money.

<--Looks around...... Are you talking to me about Olympus labs?

Any ways, Olympus has a good deal. But it's lonely at the top.

Segansational · Feb 28, 2015

In case anyone was interested, our results are posted in our testing thread:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/olympus-labs/247753-olympus-labs-announcement-3.html#post4849753

jbryand101b · Feb 28, 2015

Segansational said:
In case anyone was interested, our results are posted in our testing thread:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/olympus-labs/247753-olympus-labs-announcement-3.html#post4849753

Don't think anyone doubts Olympus labs here.

Volvo140G · Feb 28, 2015

jbryand101b said:
Don't think anyone doubts Olympus labs here.

.....

jbryand101b · Feb 28, 2015

Volvo140G said:
.....

:lmao:

Drakee · Feb 28, 2015

jbryand101b said:
It isn't out yet, but soon, keep your eyes peeled brother.

Did he.....hmmmm?

Is it cheapest quality, or cheapest & quality?

Hmmmmmm......

This is what I'm wondering. I thought he meant lowest quality.

mw1 · Feb 28, 2015

Any guesses?

Volvo140G · Feb 28, 2015

Niiiiiiiice

Depending on price point tho, Aegis is still awfully hard to beat....

mw1 · Feb 28, 2015

It's not going to be much over cost...time to get CEL back in the game
Shooting for $30-32

CJ_Xfit89 · Feb 28, 2015

mw1 said:
It's not going to be much over cost...time to get CEL back in the game
Shooting for $30-32

I agree. That 1 you sent me worked so well!!!!

Afi140 · Feb 28, 2015

mw1 said:
It's not going to be much over cost...time to get CEL back in the game Shooting for $30-32

nice! Will be buying

frankz2 · Feb 28, 2015

Drakee said:
This is what I'm wondering. I thought he meant lowest quality.

He meant cheapest, high quality. The purity tests posted in this thread speak for themselves.

heavylifter33 · Mar 1, 2015

O LAWD. CEL now has Cycle Assist AND TUDCA... no better 1-2 punch in the industry.

Shut up and take my money. Now i can run 5 methylated products at the same time!

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