My Custom Pre Workout Formula. Considering PW w/o caffiene

[Sketch2000]

I've never used a Pre Workout formula due to the stimulants and caffeine. One of the medications I take doesn't go well with caffeine.

Therefore, I've always used Pre w/o -

2 AAKG's
1 Acetyl L Carnitine
BCAA's

and whatever Creatine I'm using at the time pre workout.

Post workout I follow up with the BCAA's, Creatine, and Protein.

The most important component is the 2 AAKG's. They are nitric oxide boosters and increase vascularity. I will say they make me feel like a beast.

But I am now considering using a pre workout (low or NO caffeine preferred). My buddy uses a lot of different pre workouts.

He told me Amino Energy from ON has no caffeine but I have a sample pack and it has 200 mg (from "natural sources" - green tea...)

Is this the lowest I can get? At least I could give it a try and see what happens.....

Or are there any NO caffeine pre workouts that are worth using?

If their just full of BCAA's I may as well just use what I've been using.....

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[Driven2lift]

IMO the best stim free pre around right now is Athletix High Volume

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[Young Gotti]

personally i would much prefer hemavol or potassium nitrate....even both over aakg

 

[supermanjow]

Either of those with 5g of creatine added is a perfect combo imo.

 

[cubsfan815]

High Volume is to me the best non stim pre. The pumps are insane.

Lately I have been adding Cremax in as well. Nutra has it for less than 10$ a tub if you buy 2.

 

[Afi140]

Another vote for high volume.

 

[wicked442]

High Volume hands down. Crazy pumps! Great taste!

 

[Jiigzz]

I've never used a Pre Workout formula due to the stimulants and caffeine. One of the medications I take doesn't go well with caffeine.

Therefore, I've always used Pre w/o -

2 AAKG's
1 Acetyl L Carnitine
BCAA's

and whatever Creatine I'm using at the time pre workout.

Post workout I follow up with the BCAA's, Creatine, and Protein.

The most important component is the 2 AAKG's. They are nitric oxide boosters and increase vascularity. I will say they make me feel like a beast.

But I am now considering using a pre workout (low or NO caffeine preferred). My buddy uses a lot of different pre workouts.

He told me Amino Energy from ON has no caffeine but I have a sample pack and it has 200 mg (from "natural sources" - green tea...)

Is this the lowest I can get? At least I could give it a try and see what happens.....

Or are there any NO caffeine pre workouts that are worth using?

If their just full of BCAA's I may as well just use what I've been using.....

Sketch

Not to knock on you my friend but AAKG is poor NO booster. Try nitrates and there will be a night and day dfference

 

[Afi140]

Another vote for high volume.

only $22.99 http://www.islandsupplements.com/athletix-sports-high-volume.html

 

[Afi140]

Not to knock on you my friend but AAKG is poor NO booster. Try nitrates and there will be a night and day dfference

I really enjoyed iforce nitrates and it pretty cheap too.

 

[healthfanatic]

Amino Energy is one of the most pointless supplements in my eyes. AAKG was "ok" before nitrates, citrulline and agmatine blew people away. Any of the above options are good. High volume, focus xt, hemavol ..

 

[dbenj7]

I have not tried high volume or potassium nitrate yet, but I did like hemavol and caffeine free focus xt for non stim options. MAN bodyoctane and peak beta are ok too. Green mag is another option but I have not tried it personally.

Could add into your custom stack things like: Cit malate (I used 6g but I've seen as high as 8g mentioned), Beta alanine 3.2g (though this can be taken at anytime of the day), COP, tyrosine (dependent on your definition of non stim), agmatine and whatever your preferred choice of creatine. Good luck!

 

[Young Gotti]

High Volume is to me the best non stim pre. The pumps are insane.

Lately I have been adding Cremax in as well. Nutra has it for less than 10$ a tub if you buy 2.

thats a nice price, might have to grab some and mix with hemavol

 

[cubsfan815]

thats a nice price, might have to grab some and mix with hemavol

Yeah it has been selling real fast. What's the best Hemavol flavor now a days?

 

[veaderko]

I preferr Hemavol.

 

[Young Gotti]

Yeah it has been selling real fast. What's the best Hemavol flavor now a days?

i personally love lemon drop, but i haven't tried blueberry pomegrante or cherry limeade....i've heard great things about the blueberry pomegrante

 

[Sketch2000]

Thanks guys. Gonna check out high volume.

 

[Sketch2000]

I have not tried high volume or potassium nitrate yet, but I did like hemavol and caffeine free focus xt for non stim options. MAN bodyoctane and peak beta are ok too. Green mag is another option but I have not tried it personally.

Could add into your custom stack things like: Cit malate (I used 6g but I've seen as high as 8g mentioned), Beta alanine 3.2g (though this can be taken at anytime of the day), COP, tyrosine (dependent on your definition of non stim), agmatine and whatever your preferred choice of creatine. Good luck!

I've used beta alaline with my pre wo regimen, but it seems I'm obviously way out of date....

 

[Athletix]

Thanks guys. Gonna check out high volume.

Some good prices out there (island price above is very good). Three pathways for pump are hard to beat. If you make the purchase let us know how it goes and how you use it!

 

[Afi140]

Some good prices out there (island price above is very good). Three pathways for pump are hard to beat. If you make the purchase let us know how it goes and how you use it!

pumps are amazing on high volume. Gonna pick some more up with my next order just to have on hand.

 

[Jawbreaker24]

IMO the best stim free pre around right now is Athletix High Volume

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I 2nd this.

 

[Driven2lift]

Oh how I missed the thank button lol

Thank you guys for the support!

We are currently very close to bringing you more quality products. Like very close

 

[Sketch2000]

only $22.99 http://www.islandsupplements.com/athletix-sports-high-volume.html

Just grabbed a tub.
It only has 20 servings but I figure I may use 1 scoop so it'll last me 40 servings instead (or use 1 1/2 scoops pre workout and get closer to a month).

Pink Lemonade...lol

Grabbed some CLA too....it was dirt cheap.

Wanted to grab some other goodies...Need to re-up on my ISO-Whey but don't have the $ at the moment.

I can grab that next month and some more of this stuff.

I'm thinking I continue taking the Creatine pre/post and just the High Volume once it arrives (don't add the AAKG and Acetyl, BCAA's) as I've been doing as I won't be able to tell the difference then.

But will taking the BCAA's pre/post pose a problem?

Can't wait to try this stuff.

Sketch

 

[cubsfan815]

Just grabbed a tub.
It only has 20 servings but I figure I may use 1 scoop so it'll last me 40 servings instead (or use 1 1/2 scoops pre workout and get closer to a month).

Pink Lemonade...lol

Grabbed some CLA too....it was dirt cheap.

Wanted to grab some other goodies...Need to re-up on my ISO-Whey but don't have the $ at the moment.

I can grab that next month and some more of this stuff.

I'm thinking I continue taking the Creatine pre/post and just the High Volume once it arrives (don't add the AAKG and Acetyl, BCAA's) as I've been doing as I won't be able to tell the difference then.

But will taking the BCAA's pre/post pose a problem?

Can't wait to try this stuff.

Sketch

Dang 22$ is awesome. I am all out of High Volume too.

 

[Driven2lift]

Definitely a good price, let us know how you like it!

 

[Sketch2000]

For sure. Thx again for all the input guys.

Sketch

 

[Athletix]

Just grabbed a tub.
It only has 20 servings but I figure I may use 1 scoop so it'll last me 40 servings instead (or use 1 1/2 scoops pre workout and get closer to a month).

Pink Lemonade...lol

Grabbed some CLA too....it was dirt cheap.

Wanted to grab some other goodies...Need to re-up on my ISO-Whey but don't have the $ at the moment.

I can grab that next month and some more of this stuff.

I'm thinking I continue taking the Creatine pre/post and just the High Volume once it arrives (don't add the AAKG and Acetyl, BCAA's) as I've been doing as I won't be able to tell the difference then.

But will taking the BCAA's pre/post pose a problem?

Can't wait to try this stuff.

Sketch

Enjoy!

 

[Distilled Water]

Just grabbed a tub. It only has 20 servings but I figure I may use 1 scoop so it'll last me 40 servings instead (or use 1 1/2 scoops pre workout and get closer to a month). Pink Lemonade...lol Grabbed some CLA too....it was dirt cheap. Wanted to grab some other goodies...Need to re-up on my ISO-Whey but don't have the $ at the moment. I can grab that next month and some more of this stuff. I'm thinking I continue taking the Creatine pre/post and just the High Volume once it arrives (don't add the AAKG and Acetyl, BCAA's) as I've been doing as I won't be able to tell the difference then. But will taking the BCAA's pre/post pose a problem? Can't wait to try this stuff. Sketch

BCAA pre and post is fine. 5gr helps kick start protein syntheses and stop MPB....ALCAR pre workout is good too, helps with focus and fat oxidation.

 

[Afi140]

Awesome man! I usually do one heaping scoop but even 2 scoops is cost effective. Let us know how it goes!

 

[Sketch2000]

BCAA pre and post is fine. 5gr helps kick start protein syntheses and stop MPB....ALCAR pre workout is good too, helps with focus and fat oxidation.

Thanks brother

 

[Sketch2000]

Awesome man! I usually do one heaping scoop but even 2 scoops is cost effective. Let us know how it goes!

For sure. Can't wait