Custom Pre-Workout Idea

[Jdecesare]

Hey guys,

I'm tired of all the preworkouts on the market generally being underdosed, so I wanted to create my own. Let me know if this stack sounds and would be effective, thanks.

Vitamin B12-1000mg
Vitamin B9-500mg
Vitamin B6-5mg
Creatine Monohydrate-5g
Beta Alaine-3.5g
Betaine TMG-4g
N-Acetyl L-Tyrosne-1g
N-Acetyl L-Cystene-500mg
L-Arginine HCL-5g
Citrullue Malate-8g
Caffeine Anhydrous-300mg

 

[ddfox]

I don't think you need more than 2.5g TMG
Drop Arginine for 1g Agmatine
I'd also look into adding Amentoflavone

 

[ma70]

Well, Olympus Labs new pre-workout Conqu3r is not underdosed and is pretty comprehensive, but if you insist....

Creatine doesn't need to be taken pre-workout (but if it's convenient for you, then that's fine)
No need for Arginine
2.5g Betaine is good enough

 

[Jdecesare]

Yes I'm aware that there are some companies that put out properly dosed preworkouts, I feel like many are underdosed however, but thanks for the info. Also is the Betaine really enough to compensate for the L-Arginine? Thanks man

 

[Jdecesare]

Alright, I'll look into altering the doesage, thanks man

 

[Synapsin]

Hey guys,

I'm tired of all the preworkouts on the market generally being underdosed, so I wanted to create my own. Let me know if this stack sounds and would be effective, thanks.

Vitamin B12-1000mg- don't see the need
Vitamin B9-500mg- don't see the need
Vitamin B6-5mg- don't see the need
Creatine Monohydrate-5g- doesn't have to be preworkout although might be convenient to take it then
Beta Alaine-3.5g- doesn't have to be preworkout, although might be convenient. Also, you should take the 3.2g split into 2 doses throughout the day instead of at once
Betaine TMG-4g- 4g at once might give you GI distress, try 2.5 grams first
N-Acetyl L-Tyrosne-1g- you are better off with regular L-tyrosine, although you would still need quite a bit for it to be effective
N-Acetyl L-Cystene-500mg- no need preworkout if not combining with nitrates
L-Arginine HCL-5g- worthless
Citrullue Malate-8g- good enough
Caffeine Anhydrous-300mg- up to you and your tolerance

I gave my input.

 

[LeanEngineer]

Synapsin pretty much covered it. haha

 

[Jdecesare]

Thanks for your imput, I really appreciate it and can see why you made the corrections you did. I guess I got carried away and added too many ingredients that didn't truly make sense being together.

 

[Grayson]

NALT sucks. Go straight tyrosine.
Arginine sucks. Go agmatine or nitrates.

 

[Jdecesare]

Alright will do. But can you explain briefly why NALT is sucks?

 

[Synapsin]

Alright will do. But can you explain briefly why NALT is sucks?

It's not very effective at raising levels of plasma tyrosine.

 

[heavylifter33]

OP no offense brah, but that's pretty bad lol. Here's something that i do:

Dose creatine and beta alanine whenever as they are not timing dependent (when saturated).
Betaine: 3g
Agmatine: 500mg - 1g
Citrulline Malate: 6g - 10g
Caffeine: user dependent
Taurine: 5g +
LCLT or ALCAR: 1g +
Ephedrine: 25mg
Leucine: 5g
Amentoflavone: 200mg +

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

betaine can be lost through sweat so I would split it into a pre/post dose of 1.2g ea

 

[Volvo140G]

My custom PWO:

Agmatine 1.5 g
Betaine An. 2.5 g
Beta Ala. 3.2 g
L-citrulline 9 g

Thats it. I'll take 5g creatine mono with my post WO protein shake.

 

[Volvo140G]

My custom PWO:

Agmatine 1.5 g
Betaine An. 2.5 g
Beta Ala. 3.2 g
L-citrulline 9 g

Thats it. I'll take 5g creatine mono with my post WO protein shake.

Cost me $80 and will last me MONTHS! No underdosed 20 day supply BS. Its called "pump city"

 

[braskibra]

Cost me $80 and will last me MONTHS! No underdosed 20 day supply BS. Its called "pump city"

So for 80 bucks I can buy 4 branded companies prewo, last me months, and have better ingredients

 

[R1balla]

I don't think you need more than 2.5g TMG
Drop Arginine for 1g Agmatine
I'd also look into adding Amentoflavone

solid advice


I will just stick to Stimaholic lol

 

[Synapsin]

OP no offense brah, but that's pretty bad lol. Here's something that i do:

Dose creatine and beta alanine whenever as they are not timing dependent (when saturated).
Betaine: 3g
Agmatine: 500mg - 1g
Citrulline Malate: 6g - 10g
Caffeine: user dependent
Taurine: 5g +
LCLT or ALCAR: 1g +
Ephedrine: 25mg
Leucine: 5g
Amentoflavone: 200mg +

Good stack but that is too much amentoflavone. I think you meant 200 mg of a 20% extract of some sort.

My custom PWO:

Agmatine 1.5 g
Betaine An. 2.5 g
Beta Ala. 3.2 g
L-citrulline 9 g

Thats it. I'll take 5g creatine mono with my post WO protein shake.

Not bad. 1.5 g Agmatine will make some people get well acquainted with their toilet, and that is too much L-cit (unless you meant cit mal).

 

[heavylifter33]

betaine can be lost through sweat so I would split it into a pre/post dose of 1.2g ea

I've never heard that. What's the backing for your claim?

Good stack but that is too much amentoflavone. I think you meant 200 mg of a 20% extract of some sort..

Correct, did not label properly. Or wasn't focused on what i was doing lol. Thanks for catching that.

 

[Synapsin]

Correct, did not label properly. Or wasn't focused on what i was doing lol. Thanks for catching that.

I've got your back

 

[heavylifter33]

I've got your back

Synthetic is 20% correct?

 

[Synapsin]

Synthetic is 20% correct?

? Amentoflavone can vary based on the extract. Are you asking about Analyzed Supplements AmentoMax?

 

[3RT]

Vitamin B12
Vitamin B9
Vitamin B6
...
Betaine TMG
...
N-Acetyl L-Cystene

I see some nice methylation protocol here. But if you need it and know what you're doing, you should know that it's taken daily regardless workout. And it indeed has energizing/mood positives. Also I hope we're talking of Methyl-/Adenosylcobalamin, 5MTHF and 5'P5 here..
And catecholamine precursor of choice - NALT/L-Tyr/L-Phenylalanine - should be selected based on individual biochemistry/reaction and thus preferences. Some people use DLPA for additional advantages of the D- form.
Also what about KNO3? It's cheap and it does serve NO..
And the as the last note, Soy Lecithin (for its PA content) seems to be the new pre-workout staple over here together with Amentoflavone. Personally, I'd experiment with Sunflower Lec and see if it has the same effect though.