citrulline malate - all created equally?

[bakerwil]

Been using bulk citrulline malate

Was thinking of using a name brand if it had a noticeable improvement.

What can you tell me?

 

[B1LL1ST1C]

I've personally found all CM's to not be equal IME. A few noteworthy products would be Allmax's 2:1, Bulk pure Citrulline from Nutrakey, and SNS's 2:1 CM which I am excited to hear is in production again.

 

[Synapsin]

In theory they are all equal, but I've had some poor quality CM from other companies before. My SNS cit mal is noticeably better than some of the other sources of cit mal I've used in the past.

 

[mw1]

Been using bulk citrulline malate from healthsupplementwholesalers (1kg for 48$ currently).

Was thinking of using a name brand if it had a noticeable improvement.

What can you tell me?

Some use a 1:1 ratio while others use 2:1 , so yes you could be getting half as much Citrulline in many brands

 

[B1LL1ST1C]

Some use a 1:1 ratio while others use 2:1 , so yes you could be getting half as much Citrulline in many brands

I believe its 1.14g citrulline in a 1:1 ratio and 1.45g citrulline in a 2:1.

 

[mr.cooper69]

In theory they are all equal, but I've had some poor quality CM from other companies before. My SNS cit mal is noticeably better than some of the other sources of cit mal I've used in the past.

This. Many companies will blend in over 90% malate. You'll usually notice because it tastes super acidic rather than tart

 

[criticalbench]

Some use a 1:1 ratio while others use 2:1 , so yes you could be getting half as much Citrulline in many brands

THIS!!

 

[aaronuconn]

I believe its 1.14g citrulline in a 1:1 ratio and 1.45g citrulline in a 2:1.

And a you noted, we use a 2:1.

 

[bolt10]

Always had great results with SNS Citrulline Malate and also use Nutrakey L-Citrulline. Both are great values so I doubt I'll venture elsewhere with my moneys.

 

[aaronuconn]

Always had great results with SNS Citrulline Malate and also use Nutrakey L-Citrulline. Both are great values so I doubt I'll venture elsewhere with my moneys.

I've used Nutrakey as well and it's a solid choice.

 

[De__eB]

This. Many companies will blend in over 90% malate. You'll usually notice because it tastes super acidic rather than tart

Such as who?

That would certainly be a label compliance issue.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Such as who?

That would certainly be a label compliance issue.

Yeah no kidding. I won't name names (duh), but mccandless has made quite a few posts about blending the cit mal. It's analogous to the Betaine nitrate in another product...blending vs bonded

 

[Synapsin]

Yeah no kidding. I won't name names (duh), but mccandless has made quite a few posts about blending the cit mal. It's analogous to the Betaine nitrate in another product...blending vs bonded

This is basically what I was alluding to as well.

 

[Younglifter16]

Yeah no kidding. I won't name names (duh), but mccandless has made quite a few posts about blending the cit mal. It's analogous to the Betaine nitrate in another product...blending vs bonded

would explain why SP CM tastes so acidic lol. First they screw me with the betaine, and now this.

 

[Daycrawler]

I've had no issues with SNS or Nutrakey.

 

[thedarce]

woah when did aaron join SNS?

late to the party, just stick to SNS citmal for now.

 

[aaronuconn]

woah when did aaron join SNS?

late to the party, just stick to SNS citmal for now.

Few weeks ago.

 

[bolt10]

I've used Nutrakey as well and it's a solid choice.

I've had no issues with SNS or Nutrakey.

I see a trend with the ones used.

Haven't used it in awhile though so maybe I need to add some in or toss High Volume back into rotation...

 

[aaronuconn]

I see a trend with the ones used. Haven't used it in awhile though so maybe I need to add some in or toss High Volume back into rotation...

I feel Citrulline is pretty underrated overall.

 

[Daycrawler]

I see a trend with the ones used.

Haven't used it in awhile though so maybe I need to add some in or toss High Volume back into rotation...

SNS Cit-Mal is the cheapest and Nutrakey was like $15 for 200g of L-Cit so no need to go elsewhere.

 

[aaronuconn]

Does CM give anyone else an excessive amount of gas?

No, but I also never dose over 6g either. What do you dose it at?

 

[fightbackhxc]

Been using bulk citrulline malate

Was thinking of using a name brand if it had a noticeable improvement.

What can you tell me?

Just all depends on the quality of the raws. SNS purposely sources the best raw ingredients so we can maintain quality and customer satisfaction.

 

[Rostam]

Yeah no kidding. I won't name names (duh), but mccandless has made quite a few posts about blending the cit mal. It's analogous to the Betaine nitrate in another product...blending vs bonded

I would be interested to see some of these posts. Can you post link to some of them? Or tell us where to look for them?

 

[horizons]

SNS Cit-Mal is the cheapest and Nutrakey was like $15 for 200g of L-Cit so no need to go elsewhere.

Nutrakey has the best deal. It's the L-citrulline we want not the malate.

Big concerning as I find SNS stuff bitter as?

 

[fightbackhxc]

Nutrakey has the best deal. It's the L-citrulline we want not the malate.

Big concerning as I find SNS stuff bitter as?

You are concerned with the taste?

 

[bakerwil]

SNS Cit-Mal is the cheapest and Nutrakey was like $15 for 200g of L-Cit so no need to go elsewhere.

The place mentioned at the beginning of this thread is the cheapest and best 2:1 around. 47 for a kilo.

 

[Daycrawler]

Nutrakey has the best deal. It's the L-citrulline we want not the malate.

Big concerning as I find SNS stuff bitter as?

Not entirely true.

 

[AndroRage]

I have the option to get some SNS citrulline malate but is expiry date is September 2013. Is it worth it or will it be ineffective?

 

[schizm]

I have the option to get some SNS citrulline malate but is expiry date is September 2013. Is it worth it or will it be ineffective?

Nah, should be good to go...I'm using some of those right now...

 

[AndroRage]

Nah, should be good to go...I'm using some of those right now...

I can get it really cheap, just didn't want to be paying for worthless powder

 

[schizm]

I can get it really cheap, just didn't want to be paying for worthless powder

Totally understand that, I try to buy mostly clearance items when I can to save some $

 

[Synapsin]

I have the option to get some SNS citrulline malate but is expiry date is September 2013. Is it worth it or will it be ineffective?

Like schizm said, it'll be perfectly fine to use.

 

[horizons]

Not entirely true.

Oh? Please prove me wrong?

I've searched and searched and found malate to be useless in humans and was thought to work well with L-citrulline.

I could be wrong, but I know I don't have to use as much to get the same pump as if it's with malate

 

[B1LL1ST1C]

Any word on when the new SNS 2:1 Citrulline Malate will be available and where. Still haven't found anything other than the old batches.

 

[aaronuconn]

Any word on when the new SNS 2:1 Citrulline Malate will be available and where. Still haven't found anything other than the old batches.

I'll forward this on for you.

 

[aaronuconn]

Any word on when the new SNS 2:1 Citrulline Malate will be available and where. Still haven't found anything other than the old batches.

I'll forward this on for you.

If where you're buying our Cit. Mal from has purchased it from us since Oct/Nov, then it should be the new batch.

 

[B1LL1ST1C]

thanks, appreciate the fast response. Just figured they would have included that it's 2:1 now on the label.

 

[bakerwil]

I can get it really cheap, just didn't want to be paying for worthless powder

It will be fine - go for the deal.

 

[Daycrawler]

Oh? Please prove me wrong?

I've searched and searched and found malate to be useless in humans and was thought to work well with L-citrulline.

I could be wrong, but I know I don't have to use as much to get the same pump as if it's with malate

Useless?

No.

 

[Rostam]

thanks, appreciate the fast response. Just figured they would have included that it's 2:1 now on the label.

Unfortunately very few companies do that.

 

[horizons]

Useless?

No.

Tell me how I could be getting less of the actual main ingredient is more effective?

I would love to see anything to say malate actually improves l-citrulline.

 

[Daycrawler]

Tell me how I could be getting less of the actual main ingredient is more effective?

I would love to see anything to say malate actually improves l-citrulline.

I didn't say malate was better than l-cit.

I said Malate isn't useless.

 

[Whacked]

What observations/results are you all seeing with CM?

What observations/results are you all seeing with CM verses L-Citrulline?

Interesting info:

http://www.ergo-log.com/l-citrulline-muscle-mass-during-weight-loss-diet.html

http://www.ergo-log.com/build-muscles-but-eat-little-protein-use-l-citrulline.html