Your Best Sleep Aid

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by ahh123 View Post
    Great info thx.

    And aside the theory - did you personally notice any change in libido after taking Abyss for months?
    I sure did. But this is a function of dietary status. I went from cutting to bulking, and as expected, libido improved.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Too often, things are removed from their context and applied to subclinical scenarios.A great example is estrogen. People "know" that estrogen is needed to build muscle and that if you drive it too low, your "gains" are reduced. People also "know" that low estrogen causes poor immune function. Both of these things are actually quite wrong: they have been extracted from scenarios in which supraphysiological androgens are administered, and only in such scenarios does estrogen play a role in muscle building or preserving immune function. In normal men given clinical AIs, no issues with muscle mass gain or immune function are noted.Back to this topic, the whole notion of compromised libido with high serotonin levels is drawn from the introduction of SSRIs to the market. The increase in synaptic 5HT from a full-dosed clinical SSRI vs a few hundred mgs of 5-HTP is not even close to comparable. If it was, we'd be prescribing 5-HTP to people with depression. So similar to the scenario with estrogen, there should be zero noticeable effect on libido with 200mg of nightly 5-HTP.This can be extrapolated to tons of other things. It's the reason why testosterone or GH boosters won't make you pack on muscle like AAS, etc. It's all about the degree of physiological effects, not the shared goal/endpoint.
    Thanks for putting all that into perspective. I take 5HTP daily for mild depression and was beginning to wonder. I kinda figured that SSRI's were an order of magnitude higher given the laundry list of side effects we hear about.
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  3. folks, quick question..
    on weekdays i dont go out but on weekends i do. and i goto bed drunk..
    do you think it would be safe to take it drunk, and would it still function?
    any experience?
    thanks.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by drtorque View Post
    folks, quick question..
    on weekdays i dont go out but on weekends i do. and i goto bed drunk..
    do you think it would be safe to take it drunk, and would it still function?
    any experience?
    thanks.
    I wouldn't take a sleep aid with alcohol trolly.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    I wouldn't take a sleep aid with alcohol trolly.
    Me neither, strong first post though.

    First and foremost, I rep for FINAFLEX.
    I have to throw G8 into the mix here for a great sleep aid. I don't remember my dreams when I use it (I rarely do anyway) but the depth of sleep and the feeling of being refreshed upon waking is amazing.
    I have never tried another sleep aid, so I am biased.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by drtorque View Post
    folks, quick question..
    on weekdays i dont go out but on weekends i do. and i goto bed drunk..
    do you think it would be safe to take it drunk, and would it still function?
    any experience?
    thanks.
    You seriously have trouble falling asleep when your drunk? I pass the F right out lol

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  7. coop do you see a reason not to use 5-htp, gaba and l-dopa at the same time?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by ahh123 View Post
    Weird no new topic on sleep aids with such hectic tempo of life most of us live.

    I read on few other forums that high reviews gets Abyss Unparalleled that even Mr. Cooper gives a thumbs up.

    Then less than a week Sleephoria was released at Nutraplanet which many also waited long time.

    And few also say good things about Lights Out.

    Now I'd like to hear your feedback what have you tried as sleep aid and what works so far the best for you.

    I'll probably gonna buy next week Abyss if it gets to UK seller.

    Sleephoria will probably not gonna be available in UK so fast but will be interested in your feedback as well.
    ZMA helps me sleep much better man. I take my own concoction of 5HTP, ZMA and Melatonin. Also look into sleep hygiene
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    coop do you see a reason not to use 5-htp, gaba and l-dopa at the same time?
    Good question on which I'd be interested in an answer as well.

    Especially since few tried stack of Abyss (has 5-htp and gaba) and Lights Out (has l-dopa).

    Then also nice stack would be Abyss and Endosurge (divanil and l-dopa).

  10. 200mg of 5htp from abyss UP would wreak havoc on me.. Too bad bc the reviews are all great. But even 50-100mg of 5htp ruins my libido and hurts my dopamine levels as evidenced in prolactin results on blood work.. Shux.

    Reduction pm and REM PM are my favorites. And reduction just got discontinued.......1 cap of rem pm is my sweet spot bc two contains too much 5htp!

    Gonna try out sleephoria sooner or later..

    Even lights out has too much 5htp for me

    Pfull is great stuff.... And I always liked alri lean dreams as well.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by drtorque View Post
    folks, quick question..
    on weekdays i dont go out but on weekends i do. and i goto bed drunk..
    do you think it would be safe to take it drunk, and would it still function?
    any experience?
    thanks.
    I do this almost every sat night..... I wake up fine and often not hung over. I try to drink as much water as I can during the night and before bed tho. I don't take it at peak drunkeness lol

  12. As far as a sleep aid, I highly recommend REM 8.0. Formutech has really designed a formula that will hit you quick and keep you out. As far as cycling I would use it a week or two on and then one off. Phenibut needs to be cycled. Being a drink instead if capsules you can really tell when it hits. You become relaxed and fall asleep quickly. With melatonin or even ZMA, you have to get asleep and it will help you stay asleep and get a sound sleep. But the problem still is getting you body to calm to fall asleep. REM 8.0 really does a great job.
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  13. I think it's time for coop and PES to bang out a sleep sup.. N throw some olive leaf ext. in there and taraxacum

  14. I just came across this and ordered a bottle for the hell of it.. By BPI- nite burn it's called



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  15. I really liked musclepharms bulletproof. Haven't tried any others save for the basics, zma, melatonin, 5-htp
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    I just came across this and ordered a bottle for the hell of it.. By BPI- nite burn it's called



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    Man I wish I had $$ to literally flush down the toilet lol

    To the above Q, no issue taking l-dopa, 5-htp, and gaba together, although I'd use low doses of each for sleep purposes

  17. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Man I wish I had $$ to literally flush down the toilet lol

    To the above Q, no issue taking l-dopa, 5-htp, and gaba together, although I'd use low doses of each for sleep purposes
    Lol...

    To OP I have used 3Z (was alright), Poseidon Night Time (not this new Abyss thing I haven't tried it yet, but it was very good at putting me to sleep although I usually drank to much water with it and had to piss like 3 times a night), ZMA (didn't do anything really), Melatonin (it seemed to work until it didn't), Lights Out (it has been really good so far two months into using it, definitely helps me go to sleep faster, and stay asleep longer.)

  18. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Man I wish I had $$ to literally flush down the toilet lol

    To the above Q, no issue taking l-dopa, 5-htp, and gaba together, although I'd use low doses of each for sleep purposes
    100-150mg 5-htp
    1,5 g gaba
    300mg mucuna p. 98%

    That was my idea

  19. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Man I wish I had $$ to literally flush down the toilet lol

    To the above Q, no issue taking l-dopa, 5-htp, and gaba together, although I'd use low doses of each for sleep purposes
    I actually cancelled the order an hour after placing it pal

  20. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    I actually cancelled the order an hour after placing it pal
    Boom. Logic prevails!

  21. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Boom. Logic prevails!
    I picked up some Heroin instead.. Very effective

  22. Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post

    100-150mg 5-htp
    1,5 g gaba
    300mg mucuna p. 98%

    That was my idea
    Tried this combo yesterday before going to sleep and it was superb!

  23. Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    100-150mg 5-htp
    1,5 g gaba
    300mg mucuna p. 98%

    That was my idea
    Why 1.5g GABA when most supplements have around 200mg?

    Now this supplements you get in a stack of Abyss and Lights Out and I've seen few replies by guys trying both together and they reported good sleep.

    I also have one supplement containing Tongkat Ali and 1mg of melatonin - damn so many good options to stack and test.

    Hmm sleep & libido boosting stack.

  24. 1.5g of GABA is a very common dosage. Most dose it between 1 and 3 g. 200mg is not enough. But 1g Melatonin is definetely too much i think you meant 1 mg? The Abyss supp isnt available in europe yet but im interested in testing it. Lights Out seems to be overpriced IMHO. Took the above combo the second night and i confirm that i notice a big difference, even comnpared to 3-5mg melatonin before bedtime.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    1.5g of GABA is a very common dosage. Most dose it between 1 and 3 g. 200mg is not enough. But 1g Melatonin is definetely too much i think you meant 1 mg? The Abyss supp isnt available in europe yet but im interested in testing it. Lights Out seems to be overpriced IMHO. Took the above combo the second night and i confirm that i notice a big difference, even comnpared to 3-5mg melatonin before bedtime.
    Yeah, I meant 1mg of melatonin (edited my above post now).

    This combo of Abyss and Lights Out does temp me especially since nice amount of l-dopa in Lights Out that should work wonders on good sleep, increase in GH and of course libido boost.

    If I can get sleep & libido boost with OTC supplements that would last for at least 4 weeks then that would make me very pleased.

    Keep posting your feedback with this stack how it works for you on your sleep and libido.

    Abyss is now available since last week by UK seller that has exclusive rights to sell it in EU so I should get my test bottle by Friday.
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