PES releases preworkout "Enhanced"- have they done it again?

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  1. PES releases preworkout "Enhanced"- have they done it again?


    Having been a huge fan of the Erase Pro, Anabeta Elite, and Alphamine, I can only imagine what new innovative product "Enhanced" will truly be. PES has been a company always looking to get a ahead of the game and tip the scales. any ideas what you all think this new product will conatin?!!!!


  2. Thanks for the kind words, you guys will not be disappointed with Enhanced!
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  3. I asked and Ben said Bobby would send his bears on me. Gotta wait it out bud...sucks balls

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  4. PES releases preworkout "Enhanced"- have they done it again?

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    HIGH VOLUME - Supreme Stim-Free Nitric Oxide Matrix
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  5. Hoping it doesn't have any form of Yohimbine/Yohimbe in it. The stuff in Alphamine freaked me out.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Hoping it doesn't have any form of Yohimbine/Yohimbe in it. The stuff in Alphamine freaked me out.

    A little yohimbe wouldn't be bad, but what I hope is that it isn't overdosed with beta alanine, love the tingles though. Some comanies put 2,500 mg of beta alanine in their products for the "feeling actor." What I hope to see is a powerful substance that has merit, sustainable energy and pumps that hurt.I know with PES that they will formulate it to stay away from stimulant catabolism and protect muscle with substances like HICA. I wouldn't be surprised if they used some of the same components as Alphamine.

    I've seen too many pre workouts with flavored Arginine and beta alanine and basically that is all, sold as powerful N.O. amplifiers and most powerful on the market, both those substances are great and necessary but they are just components of great products, I'm ready for something different, I'm ready to get "Enhanced." PES

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Ice4534 View Post

    A little yohimbe wouldn't be bad, but what I hope is that it isn't overdosed with beta alanine, love the tingles though. Some comanies put 2,500 mg of beta alanine in their products for the "feeling actor." What I hope to see is a powerful substance that has merit, sustainable energy and pumps that hurt.I know with PES that they will formulate it to stay away from stimulant catabolism and protect muscle with substances like HICA. I wouldn't be surprised if they used some of the same components as Alphamine.

    I've seen too many pre workouts with flavored Arginine and beta alanine and basically that is all, sold as powerful N.O. amplifiers and most powerful on the market, both those substances are great and necessary but they are just components of great products, I'm ready for something different, I'm ready to get "Enhanced." PES
    "Arginine great and necessary"

    How bout no.

  8. Love the only two pes products ive used so far-erase and alpha t2, stacked with test powder and oep. samples would be nice as some pwo supps have given me stomach issues.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    "Arginine great and necessary"

    How bout no.
    seriously? why wouldnt you? what would you use? Oxygenated blood flow isn't good enough for you?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123
    Thanks for the kind words, you guys will not be disappointed with Enhanced!


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  12. Quote Originally Posted by Ice4534 View Post

    seriously? why wouldnt you? what would you use? Oxygenated blood flow isn't good enough for you?
    You couldn't dose arginine high enough to get real results. It's useless at low dose and toxic at high dose.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    You couldn't dose arginine high enough to get real results. It's useless at low dose and toxic at high dose.
    I agree, thats why I made the statement that high dosed arginine products are junk. I feel as though arginine is important BUT it can't be the main base of a good preworkout.

  14. also why wouldnt you add a nitric oxide percursor? powerful and necessary even at low doses

  15. Quote Originally Posted by kenny76 View Post
    Love the only two pes products ive used so far-erase and alpha t2, stacked with test powder and oep. samples would be nice as some pwo supps have given me stomach issues.
    try alphamine!!!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Ice4534 View Post

    seriously? why wouldnt you? what would you use? Oxygenated blood flow isn't good enough for you?
    How about something that is actually effective when administered orally.

    Like agmatine, citrulline, nitrates, or really anything but arginine.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Ice4534 View Post
    also why wouldnt you add a nitric oxide percursor? powerful and necessary even at low doses
    Citrulline boosts arginine levels much higher than arginine does.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    How about something that is actually effective when administered orally.

    Like agmatine, citrulline, nitrates, or really anything but arginine.
    If your going to boost arginine optimally you need to dose it with both cituline malate and a little arginine, I agree agmatine is the pump factor though.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Ice4534 View Post

    If your going to boost arginine optimally you need to dose it with both cituline malate and a little arginine, I agree agmatine is the pump factor though.
    Oral bioavailability of arginine is like 20% IIRC.

  20. Going back to my orginal statement Arginine AKG is a precursor to nitric oxide. AKG promotes vascularity and strength and supports growth hormone and insulin secretion. It can an effective vasodilator when paired with other pump factors such as cituline or agmatine. There is a reason it is a staple in sexual health products as well as sports supplements it improves blood flow and most imporantly efficient nutrient delivery. supplement are pointless if they don't aid in nutrient support.

  21. No beta-alanine here...
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    SELECT Protein
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    No beta-alanine here...
    haha thank god! Ill ad 500mg if I feel the need can't wait to get my hands on it I have a great guess itll contain Agmatine....you don't have to answer that..I can wait

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Ice4534 View Post

    try alphamine!!!
    I wanna after a couple weeks off oep.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by kenny76 View Post
    I wanna after a couple weeks off oep.
    Yeah for sure, give your self 4-5 weeks- you wont be disappointed. I don't normally rant and rave about taste becasue most of the time its iirelavent for me but- it's so good you may not stop drinking it all day. Both flavors are phenomenal!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Ice4534 View Post

    haha thank god! Ill ad 500mg if I feel the need can't wait to get my hands on it I have a great guess itll contain Agmatine....you don't have to answer that..I can wait
    I bet it doesn't
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  26. 2013 people still talking about arginine being effective? *clicks out thread

    someone let me know when we go back to talking about enhanced and other things that actually work

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Ice4534 View Post
    Going back to my orginal statement Arginine AKG is a precursor to nitric oxide. AKG promotes vascularity and strength and supports growth hormone and insulin secretion. It can an effective vasodilator when paired with other pump factors such as cituline or agmatine. There is a reason it is a staple in sexual health products as well as sports supplements it improves blood flow and most imporantly efficient nutrient delivery. supplement are pointless if they don't aid in nutrient support.
    Good god, you are so far off from reality it's shocking. Are you aware that weightlifting is an ANAEROBIC activity and that oxygen is not limiting? Increased vasodilation helps prevent acidosis and facilitates removal of waste products, NOT delivering nutrients to the muscles. Arginine has been proven ineffective if administered orally. Citrulline has been proven effective if administered orally. Alpha-ketoglutarate has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion.

    Josh hasn't commented on your advocation of arginine because he doesn't want to lose a customer, but it's quite clear that the PES preworkout, created by a company hinged on innovation and effective ingredients, ​is not going to include arginine.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Good god, you are so far off from reality it's shocking. Are you aware that weightlifting is an ANAEROBIC activity and that oxygen is not limiting? Increased vasodilation helps prevent acidosis and facilitates removal of waste products, NOT delivering nutrients to the muscles. Arginine has been proven ineffective if administered orally. Citrulline has been proven effective if administered orally. Alpha-ketoglutarate has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion.

    Josh hasn't commented on your advocation of arginine because he doesn't want to lose a customer, but it's quite clear that the PES preworkout, created by a company hinged on innovation and effective ingredients, is not going to include arginine.
    Pub Med has spoken.

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  29. Hoping it doesn't have any form of Yohimbine/Yohimbe in it.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Good god, you are so far off from reality it's shocking. Are you aware that weightlifting is an ANAEROBIC activity and that oxygen is not limiting? Increased vasodilation helps prevent acidosis and facilitates removal of waste products, NOT delivering nutrients to the muscles. Arginine has been proven ineffective if administered orally. Citrulline has been proven effective if administered orally. Alpha-ketoglutarate has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion.

    Josh hasn't commented on your advocation of arginine because he doesn't want to lose a customer, but it's quite clear that the PES preworkout, created by a company hinged on innovation and effective ingredients, is not going to include arginine.
    Hey! I was gonna do that....

    Dude tries to get a little sleep and coop has to come in and steal all his thunder....
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