How many people cycle their supplements?

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  1. Re: How many people cycle their supplements?


    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Gotcha.. I cycle everything except those two mentioned! How long for fish oil n multi? A week or two every 12-14 weeks sufficient?
    Oh ched my buddy , lol! I personally can't give you a certain amount of time based on studies etc.. Personal recommendation 4 weeks off bud every 8-12. Don't OCD it, you worry too much

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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post

    Oh ched my buddy , lol! I personally can't give you a certain amount of time based on studies etc.. Personal recommendation 4 weeks off bud every 8-12. Don't OCD it, you worry too much

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    Interesting stuff!

    I am gonna cycle off everything completely for 3-4 weeks except vitamin E & green tea

    There are supplements that need to be take for long period of times to have benefits though (long term benefits)

  4. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Not all supplements need to be cycled.

    As CriticalBench already mentioned, no one ever needs to cycle off of Hemavol or Compete...so you get to enjoy the intense effects 24/7/365!
    Chronic arginase inhibition via Norvaline is pretty good reason to cycle Hemavol. Vinpocetine in Compete should be cycled as well.
  5. How many people cycle their supplements?


    Hey guys,

    I've cycled everything apart from green tea and vitamin E and critulline malate for over 2 weeks

    Is it ok to introduce creatine and agmatine or beta analine yet?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    Hey guys,

    I've cycled everything apart from green tea and vitamin E and critulline malate for over 2 weeks

    Is it ok to introduce creatine and agmatine or beta analine yet?
    One must never use beta ANALine, that just doesn't sound like a good idea

    And yes i'd say you're in the clear to add those.
  7. How many people cycle their supplements?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    One must never use beta ANALine, that just doesn't sound like a good idea

    And yes i'd say you're in the clear to add those.
    Haha Whoops

    I still will wait another 2 weeks to add a test booster.

    Ill have a break every few months off agmatine etc

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Its along the same lines of dosing a specific ingredient too long, it can alter other levels. Too much of one omega can lower another omega (6,3).

    Remember, the body tries to remain in complete homeostasis at all times. Any sort of exogenous ingredient for long durations can cause down regulation in the body.

    Why risk it? Cycle...

    - Valdez
    Yup. Even hyper/hypo caloric diets need to be cycled you cant be in one or the other all the time. So in some way you can say cycle your food.

    It's important to keep a balance between omega 3 and 6's. The reason for all the talk on fish oil and omega 3's is because todays horribly manufactured foods may have a decent concentration of omega 6 but very little omega 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    Yup. Even hyper/hypo caloric diets need to be cycled you cant be in one or the other all the time. So in some way you can say cycle your food.

    It's important to keep a balance between omega 3 and 6's. The reason for all the talk on fish oil and omega 3's is because todays horribly manufactured foods may have a decent concentration of omega 6 but very little omega 3.

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    Nice addition brotha

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    I don't even take multi vitamins so I think I am ok with that.

    Hardly any of it actually absorbs in your body but there are people out there that definitely don't cycle those kinds of things

  11. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    I don't even take multi vitamins so I think I am ok with that.

    Hardly any of it actually absorbs in your body but there are people out there that definitely don't cycle those kinds of things
    Weeeelll actually, thats not quite true. While the full dose of the vitamin may not enter the sytem, Multivitamins with high dosages (like Orange Triad for example) compensate for the lack of absorption by overcompensating the dosages of each vitamin. Your body has capacity to absorb enough of it for it to make a difference.

    And if you pee changes colour after intake this can be attributed to your body absorbing a vitamin in excess rather than being indicitive of pee'ing out the whole lot which is a common misconception.

    Typically I only supplement with D3 in winter and now with vitamin K2.

  12. ^ Great point. Considering iron has a 10% absorbance rate. Just because it's been consumed doesn't mean your taking all of it in. Of course, there's always instances where someone has difficulty with absorbance of a given micronutrient (like me and iron).

    Obviously a proper diet will provide all the necessary vitamins and minerals in a more bioavailable form. Choosing certain foods can compensate for any lacking recommended dosages. Also how those foods are prepared will influence bioavailability and concentration. In addition, eating more high quality meats/veggies will impact these numbers as well. Often times a multivitamin is designed to make up for what people lack in their diet.

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    Great info!

    I figure I get my vitamins from my diet so I don't anything "extra"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Weeeelll actually, thats not quite true. While the full dose of the vitamin may not enter the sytem, Multivitamins with high dosages (like Orange Triad for example) compensate for the lack of absorption by overcompensating the dosages of each vitamin. Your body has capacity to absorb enough of it for it to make a difference.

    And if you pee changes colour after intake this can be attributed to your body absorbing a vitamin in excess rather than being indicitive of pee'ing out the whole lot which is a common misconception.

    Typically I only supplement with D3 in winter and now with vitamin K2.
    All great info! I do remember reading though that riboflavin is the reason for the neon yellow urine. I really need to start a file to keep things I read lol

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    I am kinda cycling my pre workouts and all that every week so to speak

    4 days:
    Monday-Thursday: gym

    3 days:
    Friday-Sunday: no gym and no supps like creatine etc

  16. Learn something new every day, I had no idea some of this stuff had to be cycled. So my supplements of choice are Ubiquinol, Fish Oil, Multi(low dose one), Selenium, B complex, Vit E, Turmeric, Vit C, Vit D, Astaxanthin and Magnesium(and Zinc but not as often). I also use a preworkout 4 days a week(Craze) and supplement with protein when needed(i.e. time ect.) and BCAA's. So all this should be cycled(minus the protein of course)? I have been doing this for about 10 months with no break, maybe its time for one.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    Great info!

    I figure I get my vitamins from my diet so I don't anything "extra"
    The only problem is that some vitamins have different forms (Vitamin D2-d3 etc.), then vitamin K which has many other forms so knowing if you have enough is more complicated than just guesswork. I'm not saying a multi-v is good, but def should use your food data to check what vitamins/ minerlals could be lacking;

    meat and eggs hold small quantities of K2 (mk-4) which has shown to boost testosterone in rats and conversely lower test levels when deficient.
    While it has no human studies that i'm aware of, anything with the potential to boost test is, well interesting to me.
  18. How many people cycle their supplements?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    The only problem is that some vitamins have different forms (Vitamin D2-d3 etc.), then vitamin K which has many other forms so knowing if you have enough is more complicated than just guesswork. I'm not saying a multi-v is good, but def should use your food data to check what vitamins/ minerlals could be lacking;

    meat and eggs hold small quantities of K2 (mk-4) which has shown to boost testosterone in rats and conversely lower test levels when deficient.
    While it has no human studies that i'm aware of, anything with the potential to boost test is, well interesting to me.
    I have never supplemented with vitamin D before

    Interesting.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    I have never supplemented with vitamin D before

    Interesting.
    Why? Where do you live?
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    I have never supplemented with vitamin D before

    Interesting.
    Vitamin D is fast becoming one of the most researched vitamins (I even bought a book on it; a whole book!!!) as it has so many benefits. If supplementing i'd suggest D3
  21. How many people cycle their supplements?


    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Why? Where do you live?
    Australia

  22. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    Australia
    Jw. Also jw what dose you take per dose since you live in Austrilia... cloudy there a lot?
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  23. How many people cycle their supplements?


    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Jw. Also jw what dose you take per dose since you live in Austrilia... cloudy there a lot?
    I don't take vitamin D

    Nah it's hot as haha

  24. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    I don't take vitamin D

    Nah it's hot as haha
    Thats why I was confused haha
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    I don't take vitamin D

    Nah it's hot as haha
    My buddy plays pro ball in Perth. That lucky bastard has summer yet round as he comes back states side for the Aussie "winter"
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