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Should a 16 yr old take a PWO?

  1.  12-10-2012  06:32 PM
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    Originally Posted by Celorza View Post

    lol the concern I have isn't there...problem lies in him liking L-Dopa as a supplement and ending up dosing too much for/or too long...Aside of that, he has not acquired enough knowledge of supplementation as he thinks, and if he mixes the wrong supplements, he could end up with peripheral l-dopa conversion...which means no bueno without a high enough dosed decarboxylase inhibitor...

    Also I am not a fan of dosing Mucuna Puriens and/or L-Dopa...which that garbage c4 does...
    Well that too:P. The only way is to let them learn on their own. Stubborn is the word. Sad.



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    Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Lol...I can also say it was a bad description of L-Dopa...
    as advanced as medicine thinks it is there are actually very few CURES available....this is probably due to there being mucho more money in ongoing TREATMENTS than actual CURES...besides the fact that many medicines cause so many sides that you end up taking 2-3 more drugs just to counter the sides...what a racket, lol...

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    I will cycle off it and only use half to a regular dose before a workout. Honestly, i may not even buy it.

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    Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post
    Caffeine is all you need man
    x2. To the OP as mentioned in your other thread your current supplement regimen is all that is needed. If you want add a some caffeine to it and be done. Focus on proper diet and training.

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    I would just take individual things that are in a pre-workout such as creatine, caffeine, beta alanine. Also whey protein would be a good idea for you.
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    I will not take it! I was being stupid and thought i needed it lol. I realized the harmful effects it can have and did some research. Thank you, i will wait untill much later to take it.

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    Originally Posted by B3ast View Post
    I will not take it! I was being stupid and thought i needed it lol. I realized the harmful effects it can have and did some research. Thank you, i will wait untill much later to take it.
    good man....i wish i were as smart as you when i was 16!!!
    no law can protect a dumbass from himself

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    WOuld not have realized with out Celorza's Neg!

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    Originally Posted by B3ast View Post
    WOuld not have realized with out Celorza's Neg!
    lol...just remember at 16 you have a lot of growing to do yet, and at 170 you have some decent size already....


    hell, you are already bigger than celorza, lol.
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    Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    lol...just remember at 16 you have a lot of growing to do yet, and at 170 you have some decent size already....


    hell, you are already bigger than celorza, lol.
    Lol inb4 he negs ME again for that

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    Originally Posted by B3ast View Post
    Lol inb4 he negs ME again for that
    i repped you just in case, lol.
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    Originally Posted by thebigt

    lol...just remember at 16 you have a lot of growing to do yet, and at 170 you have some decent size already....

    hell, you are already bigger than celorza, lol.
    I don't train for size or aesthetics, and lb for lb I'm stronger thanks.
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    Originally Posted by Celorza

    I don't train for size or aesthetics, and lb for lb I'm stronger thanks.
    Your to sexy to have to train for aesthetics
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    Originally Posted by Celorza View Post

    I don't train for size or aesthetics, and lb for lb I'm stronger thanks.
    So is an ant...


    J/K

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    Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    I don't train for size or aesthetics, and lb for lb I'm stronger thanks.
    you are our very own bruce lee...
    no law can protect a dumbass from himself

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    Originally Posted by howwedo107

    Your to sexy to have to train for aesthetics
    Made my day thanks brother
    Originally Posted by thebigt

    you are our very own bruce lee...
    Not sure if serious...haha
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    Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Made my day thanks brother


    Not sure if serious...haha
    lb for lb bruce was king, it was a compliment!!!

    why so touchy, lol.
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    A few questions.

    Why does Celorza flip out when someone post a link to a website that isn't NP. I suppose it is against the rules of some type but I never knew it was such an issue.

    Why would you neg someone for anything, at all, unless they are being a blatant @$$hat.

    I think it is fine to take some "PWO"s at 16. I would recommend something basic or making your own. Creatine and Beta Alanine are two of the ones I enjoy. You could look into Condense which is pretty basic as far as PWO but works well, and it's cheap, and you can add your own creatine. Honestly you could be messing with worse stuff, glad you are asking about PWO and not something else.

    I understand the whole forum view on the 18+, but we have got to realize that some 18 year olds aren't as mature as some 16 y/o's and vice versa. That said, I think it is important to make some natty gains when you are new to lifting. The OP has been lifting 8-9 months. I would suggest he keep lifting a while longer before working into the supplement world. You gain fast enough your first 1-2 years that you don't really need supplements unless you are a competitive athlete.
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    Originally Posted by CountryLiftin
    A few questions.

    Why does Celorza flip out when someone post a link to a website that isn't NP. I suppose it is against the rules of some type but I never knew it was such an issue.

    Why would you neg someone for anything, at all, unless they are being a blatant @$$hat.

    I think it is fine to take some "PWO"s at 16. I would recommend something basic or making your own. Creatine and Beta Alanine are two of the ones I enjoy. You could look into Condense which is pretty basic as far as PWO but works well, and it's cheap, and you can add your own creatine. Honestly you could be messing with worse stuff, glad you are asking about PWO and not something else.

    I understand the whole forum view on the 18+, but we have got to realize that some 18 year olds aren't as mature as some 16 y/o's and vice versa. That said, I think it is important to make some natty gains when you are new to lifting. The OP has been lifting 8-9 months. I would suggest he keep lifting a while longer before working into the supplement world. You gain fast enough your first 1-2 years that you don't really need supplements unless you are a competitive athlete.
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    Originally Posted by B3ast View Post
    WOuld not have realized with out Celorza's Neg!
    It is ultimitely your decision. The neg is taking it a bit too far and shouldn't be the sole influence of your decision, albeit one I agree with. At least you had the audacity to ask for our opinions.

    Negging people who genuinely have questions about supplementation is not warrented, at least imo. Otherwise you will essentially discourage people from asking who do not conform to your decision; we all know your views on supplementation but not all of us hold those views to the same standard. One must also remember that taking any form of supp is almost encouraged/ staple in gym life so the feeling of need to want to take one will only get stronger as his lifting life goes on. As he has already been lifting for some time, im am not suprised he is interested in taking one yet also has the mental capability to decide what is best for him, albeit with a little persuasion lol.

    That isnt what the neg function is for. Just my 2 cents.

    Not having a dig.

    Originally Posted by CountryLiftin View Post
    A few questions.



    Why does Celorza flip out when someone post a link to a website that isn't NP. I suppose it is against the rules of some type but I never knew it was such an issue.

    Why would you neg someone for anything, at all, unless they are being a blatant @$$hat.

    I think it is fine to take some "PWO"s at 16. I would recommend something basic or making your own. Creatine and Beta Alanine are two of the ones I enjoy. You could look into Condense which is pretty basic as far as PWO but works well, and it's cheap, and you can add your own creatine. Honestly you could be messing with worse stuff, glad you are asking about PWO and not something else.

    I understand the whole forum view on the 18+, but we have got to realize that some 18 year olds aren't as mature as some 16 y/o's and vice versa. That said, I think it is important to make some natty gains when you are new to lifting. The OP has been lifting 8-9 months. I would suggest he keep lifting a while longer before working into the supplement world. You gain fast enough your first 1-2 years that you don't really need supplements unless you are a competitive athlete.
    And yes it is against the rules to post another internet distributor as NP is a sponsor of this site.

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