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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bono1132 View Post
    My wife, after years of being told she had a bad spine and painful injections several times a year, was recently diagnosed with fibromyalgia. She tried lyrica but the sides were too bad and they don't have anything else that will work for her as far as prescriptions go. I stocked up on orange triad and oximega fish oil to help, also on 100 mg magnesium tablets, we altered our diet a bit and got her higher on protein and trying to get her in the gym more but the lyrica messed her up a couple weeks. I know there's a lot of well educated peeps on here just curious what else I should get her on, and anyone else dealing with it what kinds of foods and supps you like. Thanks for any help!
    What type of side adverse events was she experiencing? Lyrica is a selective serotonin reputable inhibitor. It increases the amount of serotonin in the body. Because about 90% of serotonin is in the Stomach many people experience nausea/vomiting/diarrhea when they first start taking them. However, these sides are generally transient and should get better over time. She really should try to stay on it if possible, or try a SNRI such as Savella. These drugs will help to resolve symptoms of fibromyalgia by treating the source and not just the symptoms.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by saggy321
    Some posit that Fibromyalgia is caused by a malfunctioning HPA axis and the milder symptoms do mimick a conditional known as adrenal insuffeciency, something I've suffered from. What helped me was the following:

    High dose magnesium (mag citrate 5 grams a day which equated to 400mg of mag)
    500 mg Vit C every couple of hours
    Phophotidyl serine to reset the HPA axis and lower cortisol (twice a day 300 - 500mg each dose)
    High vit B complex, particulary vitamin b5 (panthenoic acid)
    1 -2g of taurine
    A balanced diet, high in omega 3 where a small meal is eaten every 3 hours
    Valerian, theanine and magnesium in the evening to help relax
    To bed by 9pm every night wether I could sleep or not - try for a good 8 - 10 hours of sleep, if possible trying to sleep in ie up until 8-9am.
    Gentle exercise such as walking twice a day for 30 min or so...anything more was stressful

    I stuck to this regime religously over a 4 month period and after 2 months my symptoms began to improve. After 4 months I felt normal but I knew I hadn't fully recovered - it was only at the 8 to 9 month mark I felt completely normal and was able to train intensely.

    I hope this helps.
    That's some awesome info! There's def a lot of similarities in a lot of what I've seen as some of the helpful supplements, we actually have a elliptical in the garage were hoping she can start back on daily not intensely but she was originally told to get low impact cardio. But very insightful for dosing that will help a lot!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by barlush23

    What type of side adverse events was she experiencing? Lyrica is a selective serotonin reputable inhibitor. It increases the amount of serotonin in the body. Because about 90% of serotonin is in the Stomach many people experience nausea/vomiting/diarrhea when they first start taking them. However, these sides are generally transient and should get better over time. She really should try to stay on it if possible, or try a SNRI such as Savella. These drugs will help to resolve symptoms of fibromyalgia by treating the source and not just the symptoms.
    She was getting nausea and it pretty much killed her energy, along with some massive migraines that kept her from work a couple days, and it got to the point where she could barely get up off the couch or bed. so for now they just had her stay off it until her next appointment in a couple weeks

  4. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc

    Fibromyalgia is due to severe toxic overload of the body from things I've read and listened to. I would try a balls to the wall tough detox.
    Looked up some great info on this! Awesome info!

  5. Thanks for all these responses! Really gave us a lot of help with things to try out and see what all we can get to help fight this!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez

    My step father has recently been going through the same thing my friend. Test after test after test! A lot of the tests that they had him repeating were extremely uncomfortable. They finally came to the conclusion that he has MS but they want him to do some more tests. There were a few times he had completely written them off due to frustration.

    - Valdez
    I feel for you man. I wouldn't wish what she's gone through the last couple years on anyone. Every time she's had to go in for an epidural I've had to take most of a week off work because she wouldn't be able to move. Help walking help getting up from anything or bending over for a week sometimes. They have basically told her multiple doctors that there's just nothing wrong or nothing they can do. This has all also led to a lot of depression issues too. Hard to see the ones you love just poked and prodded and thrown on meds and muscle relaxers and pain meds and when none of that works just brought in for another rounds of inconclusive tests. Suckfest.

  7. 5-htp is used as an ssri alternative and actually I think I remember seeing something about fibromyalgia in a study I read.

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  8. Oh! Then the pain management doctors that just think she's trying to get pain killers!

  9. I thought about 5-htp before we found it was the FM she was having some sleep issues from the pain, its on my list for today because she hasn't been able to sleep much this week

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    5-htp is used as an ssri alternative and actually I think I remember seeing something about fibromyalgia in a study I read.

    - Valdez

    I saw a blurb about that too. Something about chelating aluminum out of the body as well, but I don't know if that's even relevant to the condition.

    5htp actually disturbs my sleep a little, so I take it first thing in the morning for the seritonin benefits.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by bioman

    I saw a blurb about that too. Something about chelating aluminum out of the body as well, but I don't know if that's even relevant to the condition.

    5htp actually disturbs my sleep a little, so I take it first thing in the morning for the seritonin benefits.
    One of the ideas behind detoxing is that some of the effects can come from too much metals in the body which was very interesting and found several ideas for detoxing and supps and diet ideas to help with it! Amazing how some of these ideas helped open up so much more information to look at! You guys rock!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post

    Fibromyalgia is due to severe toxic overload of the body from things I've read and listened to. I would try a balls to the wall tough detox.
    Not everyone agrees on the cause of fibromyalgia, but most think it is neurological. This is why SSRI and SNRIs are used to treat the actual disease state and not just symptoms. However, most will agree that there is no single treatment that will prevent the symptoms. Fibro is very difficult to diagnose because of so many symptoms such as lack of sleep, lethargy, pain, depressed mood, inability to function consistently on a daily basis. Most people have to try multiple SSRI or SNRIs before finding the right one for them (much like people with major depressive disorder who also will be given an SSRI and then possibly an SNRI if they can't tolerate an SSRI. There is a lot of discrepancy between what physicians will use to treat fibro. Has she seen a neurologist?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by barlush23

    Not everyone agrees on the cause of fibromyalgia, but most think it is neurological. This is why SSRI and SNRIs are used to treat the actual disease state and not just symptoms. However, most will agree that there is no single treatment that will prevent the symptoms. Fibro is very difficult to diagnose because of so many symptoms such as lack of sleep, lethargy, pain, depressed mood, inability to function consistently on a daily basis. Most people have to try multiple SSRI or SNRIs before finding the right one for them (much like people with major depressive disorder who also will be given an SSRI and then possibly an SNRI if they can't tolerate an SSRI. There is a lot of discrepancy between what physicians will use to treat fibro. Has she seen a neurologist?
    We went to one last year for testing because they were worried that she would have nerve damage because of the issues with her spine and had a lot of tests done for her nerves but found nothing wrong. We have not seen one yet since she was diagnosed, we literally found out the day before thanksgiving. I've looked up some about it but like you said, unless I'm looking up specific things for it, because its so different for so many people

  14. Now the thought process is because of the FM her back muscles are always spasming and thats what's causing the stress on her spine, so if we can get some of that calmed down we can get her muscles in her back stronger and her spine won't have all the problems.

  15. I would do a raw organic juice fast for a couple weeks and try some other detox methods
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  16. We have been doing one of her meals a blended smoothie of mixed berries, oj, banana and cullucore supersport vanilla whey every day, so she probably wont have a problem doing a detox like that for a while especially if it helps

  17. There is a movie you can watch about juice fasting called fat, sick and nearly dead. Its on Netflix or I'm sure the Web somewhere for free

    Don't get mad about the name lol, I am not aiming the title at your wife, it is simply a good movie about how juice fasting helped quite a few people with their different ailments.

    - Valdez
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  18. Ha no worries! I see its on the streaming for nextflix we will watch it this weekend!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by bono1132 View Post
    Ha no worries! I see its on the streaming for nextflix we will watch it this weekend!
    It's actually a pretty cool documentary
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    It's actually a pretty cool documentary
    More in common huh???? Lol

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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post

    More in common huh???? Lol

    - Valdez
    You got it Mang Haha
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  22. If you go the 5HTP route, I suggest methyl folate, p-5-p, and methylcobalamin as ancillaries. You'll have to play around with the doses of each to find the sweet spot.

    Check out iHerb reviews for a product called Fibroboost...tons of glowing reviews on it.

  23. We picked up some CoQ10 and 5-htp to give it a shot but I'll look into some of the other stuff you recommend, grocery shoppin tomorrow!! Kale chips here we come!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by bono1132 View Post
    We picked up some CoQ10 and 5-htp to give it a shot but I'll look into some of the other stuff you recommend, grocery shoppin tomorrow!! Kale chips here we come!
    Good for you guys!!!! Good luck man! Keep us updated!

    - Valdez
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    Biochemistry Major
    Your Physique AND Credentials Should Back Up Your Position

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez

    Good for you guys!!!! Good luck man! Keep us updated!

    - Valdez
    Will do! Seriously thanks for the help everyone! Gonna start a paleo diet while she is detoxing for a week or two... If anything it'll keep me lean durring football season!
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