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  1. Quote Originally Posted by thedarce View Post
    lots of technical talk going on, just one question towards BLR why is Prolactrone close to 40 bucks for ldopa?
    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I just read the full text of what you linked and I'm legitimately embarrassed for you. Why don't you revisit the reference and try to guess why.

    Also, levodopa is labeled as a drug and sale of it as a dietary supplement is illegal unless used as part of an herbal extract. Since your label only lists pure levodopa without extraction from Mucuna Pruriens, you are breaking the law. Lastly, as someone who knows the cost of raws for green tea extract and l-dopa, you are making an absurd profit margin by pricing prolactrone at almost $40.

    I didn't want to go down this road, but as I said earlier, just remember that you're the guy who came into the Inhibit-P thread, not vice versa.
    That covers the answer pretty well.
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  2. Does it. Considering Prolactrone has 300% Ldopa per bottle compared to inhibit-p you may want to rethink things.
    Ours also doesnt have any ingredients that reduce the potential for Ldopa to reduce prolactin. So....the real % is far more as far as being effective is concerned. It may cost more but Id rather pay a little more and have my product work.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    Does it. Considering Prolactrone has 300% Ldopa per bottle compared to inhibit-p you may want to rethink things.
    Ours also doesnt have any ingredients that reduce the potential for Ldopa to reduce prolactin. So....the real % is far more as far as being effective is concerned.
    So we are back at step one where Coop had already explained that not everything that is good about Mucuna is L-Dopa? That higher concentration extract isn't always better, and we are using the MOA of Mucuna more than that of L-dopa?

    If we are still talking about % concentrations...explain to us why you add a decarboxylase inhibitor at only 3.32% of it's needed amount to respond in that aspect...

    Why not just drop all this and let bygones be bygones...not everyone is as informed as Cooper to make the right decision, and bringing attention to this thread will only help people know more about Inhibit-P, how it works...and how some things don't work.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    Does it. Considering Prolactrone has 300% Ldopa per bottle compared to inhibit-p you may want to rethink things.
    Ours also doesnt have any ingredients that reduce the potential for Ldopa to reduce prolactin. So....the real % is far more as far as being effective is concerned. It may cost more but Id rather pay a little more and have my product work.
    You may want to go back and reread replies to you from Cooper...

    Your constant attempts at discrediting Inhibit-P, on this board and others, are quite poor.
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  5. This is crazy! I think Cooper basically has it covered.
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  6. Look, as someone who has researched Mucuna extensively (and you can find my old posts for some "hints"), I'm telling you this can end one of two ways. I'm going to drop this now, but I think you should look a little bit deeper into the literature rather than continuing to express that more l-dopa = better product.

    Take, for instance, Activate Xtreme and Endosurge. Don't you think there might be some reason they're using a 20% and a 95% extract of mucuna pruriens? I'll let you figure it out.

    And here's another mindblowing fact: a 50% mucuna extract costs more per gram than 99% mucuna extract. So the argument against margins...well...it doesn't hold water.

    Again, do your own research and come back if you wish. I have also been alerted that you are slandering SNS/Inhibit-P via PM to other members who posted in this thread. Note that I have not needed to PM anyone in order to veil an attack. All the information is out here in the open, so please, think twice before coming into an Inhibit-P thread and bringing nothing but hostility without an open mind.

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  8. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Look, as someone who has researched Mucuna extensively (and you can find my old posts for some "hints"), I'm telling you this can end one of two ways. I'm going to drop this now, but I think you should look a little bit deeper into the literature rather than continuing to express that more l-dopa = better product.

    Take, for instance, Activate Xtreme and Endosurge. Don't you think there might be some reason they're using a 20% and a 95% extract of mucuna pruriens? I'll let you figure it out.

    And here's another mindblowing fact: a 50% mucuna extract costs more per gram than 99% mucuna extract. So the argument against margins...well...it doesn't hold water.

    Again, do your own research and come back if you wish. I have also been alerted that you are slandering SNS/Inhibit-P via PM to other members who posted in this thread. Note that I have not needed to PM anyone in order to veil an attack. All the information is out here in the open, so please, think twice before coming into an Inhibit-P thread and bringing nothing but hostility without an open mind.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    This post =

    So much win in this Thread and Post.
    Haha agree.
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  10. I actually PMed him to prevent me having to post more in this thread but I dont mind doing it.
    if your supplier sells you 50% Ldopa extract for more than a 99% extract that must suck but either way since ldopa is what your relying on to lower prolactin more is better and yours has alot less.

    Second......Where is your response to the fact that you are using Ldopa along with b6 which reduces its effects?
    Im still waiting on that.

    You think 75mg ldopa along with almost the same amount of P5p is gonna work to reduce prolactin? Seriously? Let me know how it works out with someone who actually needs it.

    We have third party bloodwork showing ours works I can post if you like with reference to the person who posted it and circumstances.

    Im also willing to view bloodwork from someone using your product.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    I actually PMed him to prevent me having to post more in this thread but I dont mind doing it.
    if your supplier sells you 50% Ldopa extract for more than a 99% extract that must suck but either way since ldopa is what your relying on to lower prolactin more is better and yours has alot less.

    Second......Where is your response to the fact that you are using Ldopa along with b6 which reduces its effects?
    Im still waiting on that.

    You think 75mg ldopa along with almost the same amount of P5p is gonna work to reduce prolactin? Seriously? Let me know how it works out with someone who actually needs it.

    We have third party bloodwork showing ours works I can post if you like with reference to the person who posted it and circumstances.

    Im also willing to view bloodwork from someone using your product.
    1. There are other constituents in Mucuna that reduce prolactin. And vitex of course. My mind is blown that you are still hung up on the whole "higher %/higher dose = better" issue.

    2. I have addressed that question 100 times on this forum. Use the search function.

    3. Inhibit-P is not designed to act as a clinical prolactin suppressor. It's a comprehensive, supplement formula designed to optimize/control prolactin levels.

    But since you are so keen on dismantling Inhibit-P, let's once again reassess the facts on your product:

    1. It's illegal.

    2. It's overpriced l-dopa.

    3. It uses a dose of EGCG fit for a single rat.

    I have to go study for an exam, but take care fixing the above issues, especially #1, before making another go at Inhibit-P. I'm still curious as to where your hostility came from.

    Oh, and what you posted isn't what you said in the PM(s). But alas, I don't blame you, as you'd look like a fool if you posted the full PM after reading my post previous to this.

  12. ^^^I looked at the blood work you posted in the Prolactrone Faq thread , unfortunately there are no baseline labs to compare it to- nor is there any post labs.

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  13. You still in this whole thread have failed to answer the question.....

    Whats the point of having Ldopa and p5p at those doses if:

    you need 600mg+ b6 to lower prolactin. so its not lowering it at the dose recommended but its certainly enough to inhibit the prolactin reducing potential of Ldopa. .....which is included in lower than necessary doses to begin with.
    It makes no sense.

    Maybe try answering that before you post anything else.

    I have 0 hostility and would have stopped responding a long time ago if you would have let it be but you continue to address me so.....
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by brundel
    I actually PMed him to prevent me having to post more in this thread but I dont mind doing it.
    if your supplier sells you 50% Ldopa extract for more than a 99% extract that must suck but either way since ldopa is what your relying on to lower prolactin more is better and yours has alot less.

    Second......Where is your response to the fact that you are using Ldopa along with b6 which reduces its effects?
    Im still waiting on that.

    You think 75mg ldopa along with almost the same amount of P5p is gonna work to reduce prolactin? Seriously? Let me know how it works out with someone who actually needs it.

    We have third party bloodwork showing ours works I can post if you like with reference to the person who posted it and circumstances.

    Im also willing to view bloodwork from someone using your product.
    We do not rely on L-Dopa to lower prolactin, we rely on Mucuna Puriens...and I am not baffled (Like Coop) by the fact you don't get it...it's clearly obvious it's too hard for you since you didn't even know how your product worked...or that it was severely underdosed...nor did you know it is illegal.

    Aside from that...as stated before it is the combination of the formula that makes it a viable all around supplement and not a false claim of being as strong (and illegal) as a clinical solution.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    He did post a research study. Here it is again: http://www.plosone.org/article/info:...e-0011951-g005

    And as for "english class," if you want the word "which" to refer to "our product" in the sentence "I said we use EGCG in our product which is a prolactin inhibitor," you need to add a comma after the word "product." You made the same grammatical error in your prior post which is why I misinterpreted it. So yes, go back to English class.

    This ends when you want it to.
    Cooper. You give me hope for humanity. Haha.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    We do not rely on L-Dopa to lower prolactin, we rely on Mucuna Puriens...and I am not baffled (Like Coop) by the fact you don't get it...it's clearly obvious it's too hard for you since you didn't even know how your product worked...or that it was severely underdosed...nor did you know it is illegal.

    Aside from that...as stated before it is the combination of the formula that makes it a viable all around supplement and not a false claim of being as strong (and illegal) as a clinical solution.
    I thought it was inhibit P? so its not for lowering prolactin its an " all around supplement"?

    These are his words...............3. Inhibit-P is not designed to act as a clinical prolactin suppressor

    Thats really all I cared to point out.

    Im out.
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  17. Now that the troll is out, let's reflect on that last post just for kicks and giggles.

    All he wanted to point out was that Inhibit-P is not a clinical prolactin suppressor. Unfortunately, the definition of the word "clinical" seems to escape the kid.

    Let's consult dictionary.com for the definition of "clinical" in the sense I used it:

    1. pertaining to a clinic.

    2. concerned with or based on actual observation and treatment of disease in patients rather than experimentation or theory.

    So what does this mean?

    It means that Inhibit-P should not be used to treat a medical condition known as hyperprolactinemia.

    Does anyone else find this surprising? I mean, it's truly mindblowing that SNS doesn't recommend Inhibit-P to treat a medical condition, right?

    But I guess Black Lion Research thinks their prolactin control product is a clinical prolactin suppressor. Right? I guess physicians across the country will be prescribing their patients with Prolactrone, state of the art clinical prolactin suppressor.

    (This was all sarcasm and if you have hyperprolactinemia you need to acquire prescription medication from your physician).


    Back to work, but I just had to point on the hilarity in the guy's satisfaction that I stated the obvious. Carry on friends!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Now that the troll is out, let's reflect on that last post just for kicks and giggles.

    All he wanted to point out was that Inhibit-P is not a clinical prolactin suppressor. Unfortunately, the definition of the word "clinical" seems to escape the kid.

    Let's consult dictionary.com for the definition of "clinical" in the sense I used it:

    1. pertaining to a clinic.

    2. concerned with or based on actual observation and treatment of disease in patients rather than experimentation or theory.

    So what does this mean?

    It means that Inhibit-P should not be used to treat a medical condition known as hyperprolactinemia.

    Does anyone else find this surprising? I mean, it's truly mindblowing that SNS doesn't recommend Inhibit-P to treat a medical condition, right?

    But I guess Black Lion Research thinks their prolactin control product is a clinical prolactin suppressor. Right? I guess physicians across the country will be prescribing their patients with Prolactrone, state of the art clinical prolactin suppressor.

    (This was all sarcasm and if you have hyperprolactinemia you need to acquire prescription medication from your physician).


    Back to work, but I just had to point on the hilarity in the guy's satisfaction that I stated the obvious. Carry on friends!
    I was having le sexy time with le random girl when he answered...and I come back and see this. Cyforce, thanks for having my back on this, you just knew what I meant and explained it to him easily again.

    This post, as your previous one =
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  19. I just read a whole lot of pwnage.
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  20. I'm the starter of this thread.
    I'm sorry I have promoted a "fight".
    I bought Inhibit-P only because the vitex agnus ingredient AND p5p .

    I have to say that I tried every % extract of Mucuna prurens and straight 3,4 dihYdroxy L-phenilalanine (L-dopa) at 250mg or 500mg or 750mg.
    With or without green tea ( from 1 to 7 caps of High standardized EcGC green tea), and I never had the boost I was expecting from raised level of dopamnine in the brain.

    Never tried with pyrydoxine and/or vitex agnus.

    So I'm trying it.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by pectus View Post
    I'm the starter of this thread.
    I'm sorry I have promoted a "fight".
    I bought Inhibit-P only because the vitex agnus ingredient AND p5p .

    I have to say that I tried every % extract of Mucuna prurens and straight 3,4 dihYdroxy L-phenilalanine (L-dopa) at 250mg or 500mg or 750mg.
    With or without green tea ( from 1 to 7 caps of High standardized EcGC green tea), and I never had the boost I was expecting from raised level of dopamnine in the brain.

    Never tried with pyrydoxine and/or vitex agnus.

    So I'm trying it.
    Nothing to be sorry about brother, you had a legitimate question and real info for the consumers was posted here. It is good when this happens so things can be set in place and other members can learn from members like Coop in order to make the right decision .
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  22. Just came in to say I ordered Inhibit-P, that is all.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by xhrr View Post
    Just came in to say I ordered Inhibit-P, that is all.
    Good choice. I'm taking right now and loving it! I take one am and one pm and seems to be a good place for me.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf View Post
    Good choice. I'm taking right now and loving it! I take one am and one pm and seems to be a good place for me.
    Just popped my first dose myself thanks to Mr. Celorza's recommendation!
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by xhrr View Post
    Just came in to say I ordered Inhibit-P, that is all.
    Awesome! Look forward to your feedback.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post
    Just popped my first dose myself thanks to Mr. Celorza's recommendation!
    Good deal. Celorza can make people do just about anything.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by Clickster View Post

    Good deal. Celorza can make people do just about anything.
    Yep. Anything. I mean.....
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  28. I take mine before bed, or sex.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Clickster View Post
    Good deal. Celorza can make people do just about anything.
    lol
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  30. Matcha has more EGCG than normal green tea... It also has a lot of anti oxidants. You can find it at any health food store. I would go with the actual drink itself over a pill/supplement form.

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