[BigGame84]

When you say pre workout do you mean pre workout meal or pre workout on a empty stomach?

40 mins preworkout on empty stomach. 20 mins later took 2 scoops of GlycoMyx with some protein.

[Jorsn]

When using Slintensity or GDA's in general should you keep your fats low? and sugar intake low? The only sugar in my diet comes from fruits. Fat comes from coconut oil.

[mr.cooper69]

When using Slintensity or GDA's in general should you keep your fats low? and sugar intake low? The only sugar in my diet comes from fruits. Fat comes from coconut oil.

No. And using only coconut oil as a fat source is a surefire way to run into a host of metabolic problems down the road.

[Jorsn]

No. And using only coconut oil as a fat source is a surefire way to run into a host of metabolic problems down the road.

I meant when I use Slintensity. My main sources of fats is nuts, coconut oil, avacodas, olives, salmon.

[jerrysiii]

When using Slintensity or GDA's in general should you keep your fats low? and sugar intake low? The only sugar in my diet comes from fruits. Fat comes from coconut oil.

Also, fructose is not the best source of carbohydrate. One or two pieces of whole fruit should be fine, but complex carbs and dextrose are better. I'd keep total fructose under 50 grams -- keep in mind that one half of regular sugar will break down into fructose.

[houstontexas]

No. And using only coconut oil as a fat source is a surefire way to run into a host of metabolic problems down the road.

Piggybacking on this statement do you think half coconut oil and half evoo is an ok split in your meals?

[Jorsn]

Also, fructose is not the best source of carbohydrate. One or two pieces of whole fruit should be fine, but complex carbs and dextrose are better. I'd keep total fructose under 50 grams -- keep in mind that one half of regular sugar will break down into fructose.

I eat half an apple with 6 ounces of black beans and 4 ounces of white rice.

[Piston Honda]

I eat half an apple with 6 ounces of black beans and 4 ounces of white rice.

I threw up in my mouth a bit as I read that.

[Geoforce]

My last day of Slintensity before three low carb/calorie days! Boo.

[mr.cooper69]

Piggybacking on this statement do you think half coconut oil and half evoo is an ok split in your meals?

You'd get almost no saturated fat in your diet (I'm not talking about coconut-based MCTs, but rather long chain triglycerides). Also, no epa/dha/ala. Also, lack of balance between PUFA and MUFA. In the end, it's all about eating a balanced diet. Turn to just one or two foods for all your macronutrient needs and things can get out of wack longterm.

[mr.cooper69]

Also, fructose is not the best source of carbohydrate. One or two pieces of whole fruit should be fine, but complex carbs and dextrose are better. I'd keep total fructose under 50 grams -- keep in mind that one half of regular sugar will break down into fructose.

This is extremely inaccurate. Fruits contain both fructose and glucose, and usually more of the latter. The kinetics of fructose in fruits prevents rapid blood sugar spikes that can lead to potential issues. Sucrose is a different story

[mr.cooper69]

I meant when I use Slintensity. My main sources of fats is nuts, coconut oil, avacodas, olives, salmon.

I wouldn't take slintensity prior to a pure fat meal, but if you take it with a fat+carb meal, it may even be preferable due to the reduction in insulin levels.

[AaronJP1]

This is a nice discussion.
I'd like to see a battle of the GDAs, style review.

[mr.cooper69]

This is a nice discussion.
I'd like to see a battle of the GDAs, style review.

Re-read the previous page. Each ingredient has a unique MOA. You can certainly test glucosal disposal via a glucometer for this "battle," but as far as the most beneficial for health or body composition...comparing one to another is apples to oranges, as odd as it sounds. The category as a whole is very diverse.

[AaronJP1]

Re-read the previous page. Each ingredient has a unique MOA. You can certainly test glucosal disposal via a glucometer for this "battle," but as far as the most beneficial for health or body composition...comparing one to another is apples to oranges, as odd as it sounds. The category as a whole is very diverse.

Got cha. Yeah it is a bit boggling the diversity.

Slintensity had a superior effect on the glucometer for me, but SSv2 is my preferred choice simply because the inclusion of Na-R-ALA complements my supplement stack perfectly. You really can't go wrong with either though; an 80% 4-OH extract is unheard of.

See you're a fan of both.

You did a nice clarification on explaining the difference between a GDA & partioner. Seems like some of these products out there would achieve both goals.

[jerrysiii]

This is extremely inaccurate. Fruits contain both fructose and glucose, and usually more of the latter. The kinetics of fructose in fruits prevents rapid blood sugar spikes that can lead to potential issues. Sucrose is a different story

The liver will can only handle about 50gm per day. Beyond this fructose will be stored as fat. Unlike glucose, fructose can only be used to replenish liver glycogen. If hypocaloric it probably doesn't matter much. My mind is currently focused on lean gains so I'm probably overlooking fat loss considerations such as blood sugar stabilization that you pointed out. But fats and fiber can also be used for this purpose. With all this said, I stand by my recommendation of less than 50gm fructose per day. This still permits for plenty of fruit in one's diet.

[Geoforce]

Sadly my 4 day Slintensity run comes to an end as I go low calorie/very low carb the next 3 days. Saturday on the carb up I will be right back on it!

[mr.cooper69]

The liver will can only handle about 50gm per day. Beyond this fructose will be stored as fat. Unlike glucose, fructose can only be used to replenish liver glycogen. If hypocaloric it probably doesn't matter much. My mind is currently focused on lean gains so I'm probably overlooking fat loss considerations such as blood sugar stabilization that you pointed out. But fats and fiber can also be used for this purpose. With all this said, I stand by my recommendation of less than 50gm fructose per day. This still permits for plenty of fruit in one's diet.

No, again inaccurate because it is dependent on one's lifestyle, chronically speaking (unless heavily endurance training). Metabolism is not so simple a concept as to set gram-limits for individual monosaccharides. Fructose is actually converted almost entirely to glucose given that the kinetics are in place (hence, fruit).

[jerrysiii]

No, again inaccurate because it is dependent on one's lifestyle, chronically speaking (unless heavily endurance training). Metabolism is not so simple a concept as to set gram-limits for individual monosaccharides. Fructose is actually converted almost entirely to glucose given that the kinetics are in place (hence, fruit).

Since you are more knowledgeable I will not try to debate the issue. My understanding is that fructose is always converted to liver glycogen. From there converted to glucose if needed. I was not aware that it can convert directly to glucose?

Therefore, if liver gycogen is full (given an energy surplus), any additional fructose would be stored as fat. As apposed to starches and glucose which can also be used to replenish muscle glycogen and be directly utilized for energy.

Hypocaloric is a different story as all calories will directly or indirectly be utilized with the net result being "weight" (hopefully fat) loss.

If my understanding is not correct, I apologize. Please clarify what I'm missing. Sorry OP for going a little off topic.

[Jorsn]

I'm gonna take 1 slintensity and 1 slin sane v1 pre lunch tomorrow and see how that goes. Then for dinner i'm gonna try 2 slintensitys before dinner. I'll report back tomorrow.

Tried this yesterday and almost died.... No i'm just kidding. haha. I didn't notice a drastic difference besides increased appetite.

[mr.cooper69]

^ Google search "alan aragon fructose"

[jerrysiii]

^ Google search "alan aragon fructose"

Thanks. I'll check it out.

[houstontexas]

^ Google search "alan aragon fructose"

Just read an interview with him by Marc Lobliner yesterday. It was definitely a good read.

[Geoforce]

What else is everyone seeing in terms of Slintensity?

[saggy321]

Will this be available in the UK? If so, when?