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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    No. And using only coconut oil as a fat source is a surefire way to run into a host of metabolic problems down the road.
    Piggybacking on this statement do you think half coconut oil and half evoo is an ok split in your meals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysiii View Post
    Also, fructose is not the best source of carbohydrate. One or two pieces of whole fruit should be fine, but complex carbs and dextrose are better. I'd keep total fructose under 50 grams -- keep in mind that one half of regular sugar will break down into fructose.
    I eat half an apple with 6 ounces of black beans and 4 ounces of white rice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorsn

    I eat half an apple with 6 ounces of black beans and 4 ounces of white rice.
    I threw up in my mouth a bit as I read that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by houstontexas View Post
    Piggybacking on this statement do you think half coconut oil and half evoo is an ok split in your meals?
    You'd get almost no saturated fat in your diet (I'm not talking about coconut-based MCTs, but rather long chain triglycerides). Also, no epa/dha/ala. Also, lack of balance between PUFA and MUFA. In the end, it's all about eating a balanced diet. Turn to just one or two foods for all your macronutrient needs and things can get out of wack longterm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysiii View Post
    Also, fructose is not the best source of carbohydrate. One or two pieces of whole fruit should be fine, but complex carbs and dextrose are better. I'd keep total fructose under 50 grams -- keep in mind that one half of regular sugar will break down into fructose.
    This is extremely inaccurate. Fruits contain both fructose and glucose, and usually more of the latter. The kinetics of fructose in fruits prevents rapid blood sugar spikes that can lead to potential issues. Sucrose is a different story
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorsn View Post
    I meant when I use Slintensity. My main sources of fats is nuts, coconut oil, avacodas, olives, salmon.
    I wouldn't take slintensity prior to a pure fat meal, but if you take it with a fat+carb meal, it may even be preferable due to the reduction in insulin levels.
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    This is a nice discussion.
    I'd like to see a battle of the GDAs, style review.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    This is a nice discussion.
    I'd like to see a battle of the GDAs, style review.
    Re-read the previous page. Each ingredient has a unique MOA. You can certainly test glucosal disposal via a glucometer for this "battle," but as far as the most beneficial for health or body composition...comparing one to another is apples to oranges, as odd as it sounds. The category as a whole is very diverse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Re-read the previous page. Each ingredient has a unique MOA. You can certainly test glucosal disposal via a glucometer for this "battle," but as far as the most beneficial for health or body composition...comparing one to another is apples to oranges, as odd as it sounds. The category as a whole is very diverse.
    Got cha. Yeah it is a bit boggling the diversity.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Slintensity had a superior effect on the glucometer for me, but SSv2 is my preferred choice simply because the inclusion of Na-R-ALA complements my supplement stack perfectly. You really can't go wrong with either though; an 80% 4-OH extract is unheard of.
    See you're a fan of both.

    You did a nice clarification on explaining the difference between a GDA & partioner. Seems like some of these products out there would achieve both goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    This is extremely inaccurate. Fruits contain both fructose and glucose, and usually more of the latter. The kinetics of fructose in fruits prevents rapid blood sugar spikes that can lead to potential issues. Sucrose is a different story
    The liver will can only handle about 50gm per day. Beyond this fructose will be stored as fat. Unlike glucose, fructose can only be used to replenish liver glycogen. If hypocaloric it probably doesn't matter much. My mind is currently focused on lean gains so I'm probably overlooking fat loss considerations such as blood sugar stabilization that you pointed out. But fats and fiber can also be used for this purpose. With all this said, I stand by my recommendation of less than 50gm fructose per day. This still permits for plenty of fruit in one's diet.
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    Sadly my 4 day Slintensity run comes to an end as I go low calorie/very low carb the next 3 days. Saturday on the carb up I will be right back on it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysiii View Post
    The liver will can only handle about 50gm per day. Beyond this fructose will be stored as fat. Unlike glucose, fructose can only be used to replenish liver glycogen. If hypocaloric it probably doesn't matter much. My mind is currently focused on lean gains so I'm probably overlooking fat loss considerations such as blood sugar stabilization that you pointed out. But fats and fiber can also be used for this purpose. With all this said, I stand by my recommendation of less than 50gm fructose per day. This still permits for plenty of fruit in one's diet.
    No, again inaccurate because it is dependent on one's lifestyle, chronically speaking (unless heavily endurance training). Metabolism is not so simple a concept as to set gram-limits for individual monosaccharides. Fructose is actually converted almost entirely to glucose given that the kinetics are in place (hence, fruit).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    No, again inaccurate because it is dependent on one's lifestyle, chronically speaking (unless heavily endurance training). Metabolism is not so simple a concept as to set gram-limits for individual monosaccharides. Fructose is actually converted almost entirely to glucose given that the kinetics are in place (hence, fruit).
    Since you are more knowledgeable I will not try to debate the issue. My understanding is that fructose is always converted to liver glycogen. From there converted to glucose if needed. I was not aware that it can convert directly to glucose?

    Therefore, if liver gycogen is full (given an energy surplus), any additional fructose would be stored as fat. As apposed to starches and glucose which can also be used to replenish muscle glycogen and be directly utilized for energy.

    Hypocaloric is a different story as all calories will directly or indirectly be utilized with the net result being "weight" (hopefully fat) loss.

    If my understanding is not correct, I apologize. Please clarify what I'm missing. Sorry OP for going a little off topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorsn View Post
    I'm gonna take 1 slintensity and 1 slin sane v1 pre lunch tomorrow and see how that goes. Then for dinner i'm gonna try 2 slintensitys before dinner. I'll report back tomorrow.
    Tried this yesterday and almost died.... No i'm just kidding. haha. I didn't notice a drastic difference besides increased appetite.
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    ^ Google search "alan aragon fructose"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    ^ Google search "alan aragon fructose"
    Thanks. I'll check it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    ^ Google search "alan aragon fructose"
    Just read an interview with him by Marc Lobliner yesterday. It was definitely a good read.
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    What else is everyone seeing in terms of Slintensity?
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    Will this be available in the UK? If so, when?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post
    Will this be available in the UK? If so, when?
    I'm pretty sure we are planning to get this to our UK retailers. I'll ask Matt and we will get that answer to you.
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    Yep, it'll be available in the UK
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    @Geo, any samples of this stuff for a broke A$$ college student? Used SSv2 in the past.. Lookin to upgrade!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcc23 View Post
    @Geo, any samples of this stuff for a broke A$$ college student? Used SSv2 in the past.. Lookin to upgrade!
    We definitely have Slintensity sample cards already made. I know once you try it you'll be hooked. Let me get back to you on how to obtain them/when we are starting to give them.
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    Awesome..Thanks man..Just pm me if that works for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Yep, it'll be available in the UK
    Thanks. Any idea when, so I can look out for it.
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    Two slintensity today in a bit before a massive carb load. Will report back with thoughts/feelings!
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    Quote Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post
    Thanks. Any idea when, so I can look out for it.
    Not sure of a date just yet. I know Matt is doing all the samples by hand, so it's a bit more time consuming.

    I imagine it's taking even longer because every 3rd cap or so, he gets the urge to fondle himself.

    That part is just a hunch, though.
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    I would like to know if anyone gets postprandial thermo from Slintensity, the old SS as well as the new one make me have a slight sweat while I'm eating especially if I span the meal time longer than 10 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce
    What else is everyone seeing in terms of Slintensity?
    Not much bro.. just my bottle sittin on my shelf chillin.. waitin for pct!
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    Okay, So... I'm using Slintensity about 3-5 times a day and LOVING it. Usually my appetite is okay... Using Slintensity this frequently has dramatically increased my appetite which is exactly what I wanted. Most of the time i'm doing good to eat every 4 or 5 hours, but now i'm having no problem eating every 3 hours.

    I'm going to pick up another two bottles considering i'm about halfway through my first bottle and i've only been using it for 10 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorsn View Post
    Okay, So... I'm using Slintensity about 3-5 times a day and LOVING it. Usually my appetite is okay... Using Slintensity this frequently has dramatically increased my appetite which is exactly what I wanted. Most of the time i'm doing good to eat every 4 or 5 hours, but now i'm having no problem eating every 3 hours.

    I'm going to pick up another two bottles considering i'm about halfway through my first bottle and i've only been using it for 10 days.
    Awesome. I know the sale isn't going to last much longer so if anyone wants to pick it up might as well get it while it's cheap!
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    Today is my last day of Slintensity before having to give it up for three days due to low carbs/calories.
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    I think I'm just going to start baking Slintensity into meals; you know, like how you hide pills in hot dogs for dogs and such lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    I think I'm just going to start baking Slintensity into meals; you know, like how you hide pills in hot dogs for dogs and such lol.
    haha solid idea. I had a cheat day yesterday and binged on a big bag of pretzel m&ms + a box of fiber one w/ coconut-almond milk. Slintensity seems to have kept the bloat down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwa254 View Post
    haha solid idea. I had a cheat day yesterday and binged on a big bag of pretzel m&ms + a box of fiber one w/ coconut-almond milk. Slintensity seems to have kept the bloat down.
    Very nice.

    I'm not where I want to be, so I can't monitor effects quite like I normally would, but I can say that I noticed the same thing the few times I've used Slintensity with a higher calorie/cheat meal. It's a pretty nice thing to not feel like garbage afterward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I personally wouldn't use slintensity unless cutting, for which it is the best GDA for this purpose. Two ingredients block carbohydrate absorption and one (momordin) is inherently lipolytic.
    I've read this opinion as well as subsequent posts on slintensity. Thanks for the tip, coop. I will shelf my bottle for use later next year.
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    Stop it guys...your making me jealous!
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    Quote Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post
    Stop it guys...your making me jealous!
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