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    I used to take Kaizen's Joint Support + Glucosamine and that stuff really helped me. Sadly I haven't been able to find it so I thought I'd ask y'all (yes I am from Texas) what would be a good replacement.

    Currently taking T911 Liquid, so a small bit of epiandosterone and ConDense. I am not cycling or anything I just am starting to feel my right elbow and left knee starting to get a little bit achy, could all be mental but that's besides the point.

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    oh and I know that they have a new joint support formula out I was just trying to see what recommendations I could get

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    Super Cissus and Cissus XT are both very effective. I combine either one with Orange Triad and Orange OxiMega fish oil which gives me relief from serious joint pain. Cissus on its own should be very helpful as well.
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    What breezy said... Sounds like a lot but man if you need some joint help its worth every penny, even if your just looking to do some preventative maintenance

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    Check out Athletic Xtreme Athletes Joint Restore

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    From the AX Knowledge-Base
    The glucosamine nutritional supplements that you will find on the health food store shelf are primarily being produced by one of two different methods; hydrolysis of crustacean shells or microbial grain fermentation

    Chondroitin can come from natural sources, such as shark or bovine cartilage, or it can be made in a lab. Chondroitin is also known as chondroitin sulfate.

    Cartilage is one of the primary connective tissues of the body, providing flexibility and support to your joints. Undenatured Type II Collagen is the principal structural protein in cartilage that is responsible for the strength and toughness. UCII is derived from chicken sternum cartilage, UC-II is made of Undenatured (native) Type II Collagen that works to repair and keep joints healthy. UCII is the only Undenatured Type II Collagen available. Other forms of type II collagen sold as dietary supplements are denatured, or hydrolyzed which makes them only a fraction as effective for repairing and supporting joints and tissue.

    In a recent Randomized Double-Blind Study UCII was shown to be More than Twice as Effective than Glucosamine + Chondroitin.

    BiovaFlex is an all-natural ingredient derived from eggshell membrane that is designed to repair and support joints. It gives your joints vital tissue rebuilding nutrients contained within eggshell membrane. The eggshell membrane is the unique protective barrier between the egg white and the egg shell.

    In a 67 patient study published in the March 2009 issue of a peer-reviewed scientific journal they found that patients reported a positive outcome as soon as 10 days after beginning to take the supplement. And in an open-label study published in May 2009 they found that supplementing with egg membrane supported increased joint flexibility within 7 days.
    Here’s what eggshell membrane contains:
    •Collagen – A fibrous protein that supports cartilage and connective tissue strength and elasticity.
    •Elastin – A protein that supports cartilage repair.
    •Desmosine and isodesmosine – Two amino acids that support elastin’s cartilage repair.
    •Glycosaminoglycans (GAGs) – Vital polysaccharides that are structural components of your connective tissue.
    •Transforming growth factor-b - A protein that supports tissue rejuvenation.

    Athletic Xtreme is the first and only company in the industry to use BiovaFlex, the only water-soluble and clinically studied eggshell membrane ingredient made in the USA.



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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    Super Cissus and Cissus XT are both very effective. I combine either one with Orange Triad and Orange OxiMega fish oil which gives me relief from serious joint pain. Cissus on its own should be very helpful as well.
    This, Cissus XT alone, or with Orange Triad/Oximega will knock out any pain plus reduce inflammation.
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    I got to try a couple bottle of AX Joint Restore. Between Joint Restore and Cissus XT u will be set

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    thanks alot guys, reps for all!

    but I agree on the joint supports being worth their weight in gold! I am not a big supplement user, I like trying stuff but nothing really seems worth it (I dont even drink protein) but not having fish oil and a joint support has made a huge difference. definitely going to look at pricing for both Joint Support and Cissus Xt

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    SNS Cissus XT has been a blessing on my joints. I also really like Labrada Elasti-Joint (just not their fruit punch flavor cause it sucks). Those would actually make a fantastic combination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clickster View Post
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    From the AX Knowledge-Base
    The glucosamine nutritional supplements that you will find on the health food store shelf are primarily being produced by one of two different methods; hydrolysis of crustacean shells or microbial grain fermentation

    Chondroitin can come from natural sources, such as shark or bovine cartilage, or it can be made in a lab. Chondroitin is also known as chondroitin sulfate.

    Cartilage is one of the primary connective tissues of the body, providing flexibility and support to your joints. Undenatured Type II Collagen is the principal structural protein in cartilage that is responsible for the strength and toughness. UCII is derived from chicken sternum cartilage, UC-II is made of Undenatured (native) Type II Collagen that works to repair and keep joints healthy. UCII is the only Undenatured Type II Collagen available. Other forms of type II collagen sold as dietary supplements are denatured, or hydrolyzed which makes them only a fraction as effective for repairing and supporting joints and tissue.

    In a recent Randomized Double-Blind Study UCII was shown to be More than Twice as Effective than Glucosamine + Chondroitin.

    BiovaFlex is an all-natural ingredient derived from eggshell membrane that is designed to repair and support joints. It gives your joints vital tissue rebuilding nutrients contained within eggshell membrane. The eggshell membrane is the unique protective barrier between the egg white and the egg shell.

    In a 67 patient study published in the March 2009 issue of a peer-reviewed scientific journal they found that patients reported a positive outcome as soon as 10 days after beginning to take the supplement. And in an open-label study published in May 2009 they found that supplementing with egg membrane supported increased joint flexibility within 7 days.
    Here’s what eggshell membrane contains:
    •Collagen – A fibrous protein that supports cartilage and connective tissue strength and elasticity.
    •Elastin – A protein that supports cartilage repair.
    •Desmosine and isodesmosine – Two amino acids that support elastin’s cartilage repair.
    •Glycosaminoglycans (GAGs) – Vital polysaccharides that are structural components of your connective tissue.
    •Transforming growth factor-b - A protein that supports tissue rejuvenation.

    Athletic Xtreme is the first and only company in the industry to use BiovaFlex, the only water-soluble and clinically studied eggshell membrane ingredient made in the USA.



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    I can vouch for Flexible and Cissus-XT you couldnt go wrong with either IMO

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    I'll second the motion on cissus. Also, check out Joint Force.

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    Four grams glucosamine a day. two grams is too little-that is my staple for joint support

    I think msm hgher dosed is worth a shot and maybe chondriton

    just anti natural anti-inflammatorys in general help, fish oils. animal pack has a good one;however in my opinion the glucosamine is too low so take extra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolanrox View Post
    I can vouch for Flexible and Cissus-XT you couldnt go wrong with either IMO
    yep, flexible with orange triad. joints feel nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolanrox
    I can vouch for Flexible and Cissus-XT you couldnt go wrong with either IMO
    Thanks cissus xt is a staple for me now
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    I can't decide between Cissus XT or Joint Restore, I'll let my wallet decide
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    Cissus has zero research suggesting it's useful for joint "support". Zero. It may however be good if you have a bone fracture or even fat loss.

    Try Joint Fixx, it contains a couple goodies plus what is actually a drug in Europe for joint pain (legal as a supplement in the U.S.). Here are some unbiased (we have no idea who these people are) reviews we found cruising the net...

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smeton View Post
    I think msm hgher dosed is worth a shot and maybe chondriton
    Powdered MSM is cheap as fukk and helped me out when I started dosing 5-7 grams a day. Glucosamine Sulfate has performed better in studies than Glucosamine HCL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Cissus has zero research suggesting it's useful for joint "support". Zero. It may however be good if you have a bone fracture or even fat loss.

    Try Joint Fixx, it contains a couple goodies plus what is actually a drug in Europe for joint pain (legal as a supplement in the U.S.). Here are some unbiased (we have no idea who these people are) reviews we found cruising the net...

    never heard of it. love all the research that is coming off this though.
    what is this "drug"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Cissus has zero research suggesting it's useful for joint "support". Zero. It may however be good if you have a bone fracture or even fat loss.

    Try Joint Fixx, it contains a couple goodies plus what is actually a drug in Europe for joint pain (legal as a supplement in the U.S.). Here are some unbiased (we have no idea who these people are) reviews we found cruising the net...


    Cissus has a lot positive anecdotal reports, if you're gonna say those are worthwhile with Joint Fixx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NomZ View Post
    Cissus has a lot positive anecdotal reports
    It has an insane amount of backers. I've never taken it but its raved about on a lot of different forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla99 View Post
    Powdered MSM is cheap as fukk and helped me out when I started dosing 5-7 grams a day. Glucosamine Sulfate has performed better in studies than Glucosamine HCL.
    agreed on the glucosamine studies.

    Thanks ill look around for msm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla99 View Post
    It has an insane amount of backers. I've never taken it but its raved about on a lot of different forums
    I'm one of those backers too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla99

    It has an insane amount of backers. I've never taken it but its raved about on a lot of different forums
    Its an excellent ingredient to reduce joint pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NomZ
    I'm one of those backers too.
    Think I'm just gonna try it out, and OT cuz I liked White Flood back when I tried it. Got me off the Jack3d fanboat but that's a different story

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenGarcia View Post
    never heard of it. love all the research that is coming off this though.
    what is this "drug"?
    Avocado soybean unsaponifiables or more commonly referred to as ASU.

    Quote Originally Posted by NomZ View Post
    Cissus has a lot positive anecdotal reports, if you're gonna say those are worthwhile with Joint Fixx.
    I dont deny that, I've said before I like using it for short periods of time as well. I think long term use probably leads to excessive cortisol reduction, and potentially more joint pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Avocado soybean unsaponifiables or more commonly referred to as ASU.



    I dont deny that, I've said before I like using it for short periods of time as well. I think long term use probably leads to excessive cortisol reduction, and potentially more joint pain.
    I am interested in Joint Fixx after I keep hearing you talk about it.

    I'll see if I experience any signs of low cortisol or more joint pain, been on for a month now and plan to stay on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NomZ
    I am interested in Joint Fixx after I keep hearing you talk about it.

    I'll see if I experience any signs of low cortisol or more joint pain, been on for a month now and plan to stay on.
    I found a half off code. Read some concerns how the anti inflammatory effects of cissus causing a reduction in teh gainz. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenGarcia View Post
    I found a half off code. Read some concerns how the anti inflammatory effects of cissus causing a reduction in teh gainz. Thoughts?
    I wouldn't dose it pre-wo, but I highly doubt that it would have that great an effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allnatural923 View Post
    This. Cissus is ineffective? Yeah no..
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    Cissus is great for joint pain. Not necessarily for joint maintenance, but actual joint pain.

    I have been using Osteo-Sport and it is great for joint support and recovery. It's worth checking out if you want something that attacks joint issues from a lot of different angles.

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    how convenient!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuZo View Post
    This. Cissus is ineffective? Yeah no..
    ??? You linked to a product that has nothing to do with cissus. Vaughntrue would not be proud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    ??? You linked to a product that has nothing to do with cissus. Vaughntrue would not be proud.
    Joint Help, ie an iForce product, does not contain Cissus?
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    Cissus does indeed appear to exert anti-obesogenic effects (that are synergistic with African Mango). It could also positively affect neurotransmitters and serotonin. As for its effects on joints, there may not be human trials as of yet, but the anti-inflammatory effect of CQ is well-documented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    ??? You linked to a product that has nothing to do with cissus. Vaughntrue would not be proud.
    product that contains cissus = has nothing to do with cissus?



    any 1 big thing about joint help: probably one of the only products out there that will give pain relief on the first dose. and as coop and myself have learned from taking paractin for an extended period of time, the anti-inflamitory/pain reduction gets better and better as you go
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    product that contains cissus = has nothing to do with cissus?



    any 1 big thing about joint help: probably one of the only products out there that will give pain relief on the first dose. and as coop and myself have learned from taking paractin for an extended period of time, the anti-inflamitory/pain reduction gets better and better as you go
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