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- 09-26-2012, 11:06 AM
09-26-2012, 11:12 AM
Cissus is great for joint pain. Not necessarily for joint maintenance, but actual joint pain.
I have been using Osteo-Sport and it is great for joint support and recovery. It's worth checking out if you want something that attacks joint issues from a lot of different angles.
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09-27-2012, 01:51 AM
Cissus does indeed appear to exert anti-obesogenic effects (that are synergistic with African Mango). It could also positively affect neurotransmitters and serotonin. As for its effects on joints, there may not be human trials as of yet, but the anti-inflammatory effect of CQ is well-documented.
09-27-2012, 10:02 AM
any 1 big thing about joint help: probably one of the only products out there that will give pain relief on the first dose. and as coop and myself have learned from taking paractin for an extended period of time, the anti-inflamitory/pain reduction gets better and better as you go
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10-01-2012, 11:20 PM
I've noticed a big help while taking cissusOriginally Posted by mr.cooper69
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10-02-2012, 01:13 AM
Super Cissus ftw... check out Nutra for USPowders bulk Super Cissus RX... and also check out this link... good info on it.
10-02-2012, 02:22 AM
All this cissus talk, has anyone tried eucommia bark or other herbs that martial artists typically used for connective tissue?
10-02-2012, 02:38 AM
OP: Something about fish oil not being effective regarding heart disease or something. (Basically I didn't read the article)
Below are comments back and forth:
Me:Even if this info was true for everyone, it would still be good for joints right?
Alan Aragon: Randall -- There is some evidence for this, yes. However, it's mainly limited to therapeutic applications (ie, rheumatoid arthritis, osteoarthritis). I doubt fish oil will do much for those who abuse their joints in the gym.
Me:Thanks Alan, what's your take on Cissus for joints? Or I suppose my question is what do you think is best to use to keep them lubed up?
Alan:Cissus research has some very high potential for commercial bias. The lead investigator of the research (Julius Oben) is also the patent holder & CSO of the company who sells the cissus-containing formulations. As for keeping joints healthy in the long term, your best bet is to make sure your training & diet overall is well-balanced, and make sure you chose the right parents. Regular fatty fish intake (or fish oil supplementation) won't hurt. Popular joint pain supps like glucosamine & chondroitin have performed equivocally in the literature.
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10-02-2012, 02:45 AM
^ Alan knows I respect him wholeheartedly but I would need to have a conversation with him on both topics. Fish oil is more a question of total FA balance, and cissus has high-impact factor , unbiased studies on its MOA. There is some sponsorship (see CORE, irivina, etc), but there is also ample evidence showing cissus is potentially therapeutic.
10-02-2012, 02:46 AM
Glucosamine and chondroitin also have totally dissimilar MOAs to cissus. Alan is an amazing nutritional scientist, but I doubt he's had time to dissect the literature behind common supplement ingredients.
10-02-2012, 03:02 AM
Thanks coop, cause I've been wanting to start paying some better attention to my joints. So would Cissus, glucosamine, and chondroitin all be good places to start? Also what is MOA? It is method of application or something close? I hope I'm at least close.
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