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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Thanks for the candid feedback. It's appreciated

    That said, there are some mitigating factors that prevent your solid results from any sort of specific conclusion(s) on ONE particular product that you used to augment your diet in obtaining results.

    Your diet alone would yield decent results.

    T2 is a welll-liked and very well-documented product on this board and has been for years, so that muddies the waters too with respect to your results and WHAT caused them

    Regardless, thanks for the post and congrats on the success
    No question you are correct. Did you see Iboston's similar response, and then my response to that?

    My response: "True. all I can tell you is what my results were with the stack I was on. Androlean comprised the majority of my stack, however. And I can also tell you that I have taken Alpha T-2 before and had very little success. I only was taking it again because it came free as part of a Nutraplanet combo deal, and i figured it may have some synergy for thermo properties. Additionally, when I previously took Andromass and had a similar diet, I did not lose any bodyfat. Take my anecdotal evidence for what it's worth. If you wait for someone who is not sponsored by Primordial Performance to run AndroLean solo you might be waiting a long time since almost everyone stacks the andro series."

    As for another question by Iboston, my AndroMass amd AndroDrive run was decent, but I did not dose it correctly, nor for long enough. it was my first run on PP and I only bought one bottle of each, so I took 4 caps of each for 6 weeks. I had good strength gains and some mass, but I don't think I saw the full benefits. It was my mistake.

    I am looking forward to my next AndroLean cycle of 6 caps/daily and AndroHard 3caps for 8 weeks. My diet will be strict and I will try to take bf% numbers as well as B&As. I'm not going to run it solo but I believe it will work well again for me.

    For those of you on the fence who can afford it, just do an 8 week cycle and quit waiting for this board to convince you. All you are going to get is anecdotal evidence (such as mine). I think PP is selling quality products that are a little bit expensive but without many sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halimaw
    I have been really looking into this or AH... would like to see feedback specially those with at/below 12%bf---subbed'.
    I'd like to see feedback for those above.

    M. Porter, didn't you say ppl had symptoms of cloudy head, foggy head on & feeling weak & sluggish on the Lean v3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    ^^^ this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Can non reps get a translation?
    are you where your NOT supposed to be .....again???....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I'd like to see feedback for those above.

    M. Porter, didn't you say ppl had symptoms of cloudy head, foggy head on & feeling weak & sluggish on the Lean v3?
    Could be due to low levels of cortisol from 7/11 oxo. Cortisol transports T3 in to cells. But not 100% positive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy

    Could be due to low levels of cortisol from 7/11 oxo. Cortisol transports T3 in to cells. But not 100% positive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halimaw View Post
    I have been really looking into this or AH... would like to see feedback specially those with at/below 12%bf---subbed'.
    that would be me.
    but since i'm an athlete sponsored by the company, i'll refrain from spinning a link to my thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    are you where your NOT supposed to be .....again???....
    I can't give my opinion, but can't blame me for keeping an eye on it, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I can't give my opinion, but can't blame me for keeping an eye on it, no?
    you are walking a VERY FINE LINE SIR!

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    I'm just waiting on feedback for an androenhance/androlean 1.5x dosage cycle. Would love to see how lean someone could get with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I'd like to see feedback for those above.

    M. Porter, didn't you say ppl had symptoms of cloudy head, foggy head on & feeling weak & sluggish on the Lean v3?

    Yes , I had these effects myself a bit.

    I was told this was due to gaba activity from the Super-11

    Nothing like 1T or version 2 AH, but it was there

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter

    Yes , I had these effects myself a bit.

    I was told this was due to gaba activity from the Super-11

    Nothing like 1T or version 2 AH, but it was there

    -Matt
    Thx for clarifying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy
    I'm just waiting on feedback for an androenhance/androlean 1.5x dosage cycle. Would love to see how lean someone could get with that.
    Everyone was waiting for lean v3 like the an iPhone release date. Maybe it took too long and people switched up the orders but for the anticipation I thought there would be more feedback. Mass v2 drew me to PP among some other factors, and Mass v2 was pretty legit I'll say, just had to fix the bloat issues which I guess they did with v3. Bulk I heard people were not getting the results they wanted either, but guess the only way to really know is to give it a go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
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    Anyone get anything out of this stuff
    I just reveiwed it under "Reviews" tab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk0316 View Post
    I just reveiwed it under "Reviews" tab.
    Honest review. I have considered the andro series as well for a "lighter" intro into the world of anabolics, but the results are mixed on some of them. I'm holding off for the time being, but definitely want to learn more, hear more feedback, and will consider a run in the future.
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    Although you're a REP and moreover, a REP for the very company's product we are discussing here, I appreciate your seemingly candid response. Sorry, but the VAST majority of REP replies related to products are not only egregiously disingenuous to the point of insulting but flat out RETARDED.

    How does one knowe if they have V2 OR V3 ??

    Mine simply says
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    super-7-DHEA

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    I think I bought it like a year ago (dont recall)

    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Ill give you a "no bull' breakdown

    AM v2 -- This was the product with the most favorable feedback. People really did call and email they gained 10-12-16 lbs from this product

    AH v2 -- Was hit or miss due to the pure alpha isomer of androsterone. This version was badass in potentially building some tissue, but made your brain feel foggy and dazed. This made lethargy a huge concern and motivation a real pain. Some succeeded well on it though

    AL v2 -- Perhaps over hyped a bit....worked, but was super mild and was not transforming people like some would have liked.


    AM v3 -- Similar feedback as V2. Mostly positive, and no lethargy issues like v2.

    AH v3 -- A bad mofo...blended with more EPI (beta-isomer) to make your brain feel great and motivate your workouts.

    AL v3 -- Vastly improved. Way better propensity to lessen abdominal fat and build some lean tissue from a mild anabolic now in the product (super-11)

    AB v3 -- Safe, and works, but the price does not quite equate to the reward from user feedback. If price could be lowered I think people would love this product since its not very androgenic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Although you're a REP and moreover, a REP for the very company's product we are discussing here, I appreciate your seemingly candid response. Sorry, but the VAST majority of REP replies related to products are not only egregiously disingenuous to the point of insulting but flat out RETARDED.

    How does one knowe if they have V2 OR V3 ??

    Mine simply says
    AndroLean
    Super-5-DHEA
    super-7-DHEA

    (liquavade HCT)

    I think I bought it like a year ago (dont recall)
    You have AL V2, V3 has 11-DHEA and 7-DHEA

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    Thank u

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    You have AL V2, V3 has 11-DHEA and 7-DHEA
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    Bump -- Want more unquestionable feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Thank u
    You disappointed with my 'no bull' review in v2 AL? lol

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    Nope -thats why I said thank you lol

    Am I missing something here? lol

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    First, yes, I know this is an AL thread but folks want feedback on PP products in general.

    Second, no, I have no ties to Primordial or any of the reps.

    Here's my last PP log Summer Fun with Primordial and ForeRunner which I ran AM/AH/AD for 8 weeks. Being old, I really liked most of what I experienced and learned about myself.

    Thanks to the encouragement and support of the PP reps here on AM, I'll be running AH/AL @ 2 bottles each for 8 weeks starting sometime in January if all goes well with the election in November and CA's educational budget issues. I invite anyone who hasn't decided on rolling with AL or something else by PP by then to sub and see what I am experiencing.
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    Thanks Colb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbicide View Post
    Being old, I really liked most of what I experienced and learned about myself..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbicide View Post
    First, yes, I know this is an AL thread but folks want feedback on PP products in general.

    Second, no, I have no ties to Primordial or any of the reps.

    Here's my last PP log Summer Fun with Primordial and ForeRunner which I ran AM/AH/AD for 8 weeks. Being old, I really liked most of what I experienced and learned about myself.

    Thanks to the encouragement and support of the PP reps here on AM, I'll be running AH/AL @ 2 bottles each for 8 weeks starting sometime in January if all goes well with the election in November and CA's educational budget issues. I invite anyone who hasn't decided on rolling with AL or something else by PP by then to sub and see what I am experiencing.

    37 is "old" now days....

    "old" is like 65 yrs old....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    37 is "old" now days....

    "old" is like 65 yrs old....

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    Ok, ok, I should have said older. There are days I just feel old I guess. And 65 old? You never saw my grandmother who tore things up at 90. Wish I had her drive!
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    would that you could look like this when you get old.






    oh - and 41 is the new 23.


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    He looks incredible!!!

    I will never understand why this cat doesnt train his calves though. His body is obviously "his life" so one would reason, he would care about his legs too??? Or maybe gentically, he just never got anywhere with them.

    Regardless, what a bad azz and inspiration.
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    Did he get the tats to feel young again or "in with the times" .......his entire back is covered....not a huge fan of that.

    Dude was on legit jintropins......he knows the fountain of youth well!

    If I had millions I would be on the best product too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Did he get the tats to feel young again or "in with the times" .......his entire back is covered....not a huge fan of that.

    Dude was on legit jintropins......he knows the fountain of youth well!

    If I had millions I would be on the best product too!

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    tatts surprised me too, when i first saw them i thought they were makeup for a movie shoot, but no..real deal.
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    His body for his age is an inspiration. Hope to look half that good at that age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    His body for his age is an inspiration. Hope to look half that good at that age.
    Hell yea. Though I'm more impressed with the mass he had back in Rambo 4 at his age. Either way, he takes care of himself. Gives us hope.
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    Ditto here

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    his entire back is covered....not a huge fan of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    he's been using hgh since the early/mid 80s, when Franco Columbu trained him and taught him a few things..

    tatts surprised me too, when i first saw them i thought they were makeup for a movie shoot, but no..real deal.

    Cadaver GH???

    I thought Lyle alzado used cadaver GH and THAT is what actually contributed to brain tumor...not aas...

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    I heard the that as well, also heard brain cancer, then AIDS too....but at the end of the day, who the heck really knows the actual etiology of his demise you know?


    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Cadaver GH???

    I thought Lyle alzado used cadaver GH and THAT is what actually contributed to brain tumor...not aas...

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    Am I the only one that thinks Lyle blaming PEDs was nothing more than a publicity thing? I dont think the PEDs did it.
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