No Spin Zone + No Company Reps Please
Thanks
Anyone get anything out of this stuff
Thanks
Anyone get anything out of this stuff
Have you used any of the andro supps before.? I havent and am very curious..are u using androlean now and are dissapointed?No Spin Zone + No Company Reps Please
Thanks
Anyone get anything out of this stuff
What about andro lean solo? With all the other things you were taking, it'd be hard to give an accurate review or assessment--especially when using alpha t-2 with that.i just finished 8 weeks of AndroLean V3 and Androdrive V3 and i'm not a rep for anyone. 6 caps daily of AL and 3 caps AD and 2-3 caps of Alpha t-2. I do not have body fat % numbers nor before and after pics but I am down 18 pounds of total weight (from 230 to 212), I am at or above all of my previous strength PRs and my arms are still 19.5" circumference. My diet was only moderately strict: reduction of carbs during weekdays while keeping protein higher than fat. I am happy with this stack and have just ordered two botles of AndroLean and one bottle of AndroHard for a December-January cycle.
Sides were minimal: a little bit of aggression, but less than my run with AndroMass and AndroDrive at the beginning of the year. I had some headaches but I can't point it at Andro products specifically.
My PCT starting tomorrow will be Erase Pro, TCF-1, Sustain alpha, Anabeta Elite
Not disappointed at all.
Thanks man- great feedback none the less. I was just curious if you had ever run it solo.True. all I can tell you is what my results were with the stack I was on. Androlean comprised the majority of my stack, however. And I can also tell you that I have taken Alpha T-2 before and had very little success. I only was taking it again because it came free as part of a Nutraplanet combo deal, and i figured it may have some synergy for thermo properties. Additionally, when I previously took Andromass and had a similar diet, I did not lose any bodyfat. Take my anecdotal evidence for what it's worth. If you wait for someone who is not sponsored by Primordial Performance to run AndroLean solo you might be waiting a long time since almost everyone stacks the andro series.
Usually when a company and its reps shove there prod down your throat let alone as u put it praise it to death..i def keep my distanceIve tried the 1.0 versions
Total disappointment. Pretty sure that was shared by most.
2.0 seems to have gotten better reviews but I have not see a lot of AndroLean 2.0 reviews other than those PIMPED to high heaven by the company and its reps; albeit "expected and typical" around here for EVERY company's product.
Usually when a company and its reps shove there prod down your throat let alone as u put it praise it to death..i def keep my distance
Thats one thing i dont like is pushy reps.Or the ones who go from thread to thread just to recomend there prod...i undersatnd what there rwaponsibility is ,but some times its ridiculous
First of all,i see alot of your posts and you are far from pushy man.To be honest most all reps here arent pushy by any means as compared to many sites,which is why I like this site..Over at ****ty BBdotcom,its a ****ing joke over there.One of the most poor run forums i have ever seen.the reps are ridiculous man.between ergo,Controlled Labs and universal,i never seen anyone push there products so hard,its disgusting!!!!^ I annoy the sh!t outta myself sometimes....but its truthful info...
-Matt
LMAO,there is one kid here who became a rep who fits your description to a T brotha "insecure groupies dying to be part of the IN crowd who defend the company and it's products no matter the cost as if that somehow makes them part-owner or cool or something" <---- you are so spot on..See with me,i say what i want when i want,accept me for what i say and if you dont to ****ing bad =).I dont mean that to sound slike a tough guy,but I dont care no worry about fitting in,cause i can be myself and naturally fit in anywhere,if ppl take the time to understand me.Agreed
The problem is that THIS occurs more than not around here anymore.
Then you have the adolescent, insecure groupies dying to be part of the IN crowd who defend the company and it's products no matter the cost as if that somehow makes them part-owner or cool or something. LMAO Liek get a freaking backbone, grow a soul and maybe actualy start dating chicks?
It is the most annoying AND comical thing to have to watch on this board - bar none.
There are some VERY stand up classy non pushy Reps but let's keep it real, most have ONE MAIN Agenda
ahem....you sir are BANNED from this thread (see title in your sig: PP rep= not welcome)....don't make us have to get MWB and flexmagnum in here to escort you out...they are the bouncers in here...^ I annoy the sh!t outta myself sometimes....but its truthful info...
-Matt
ahem....you sir are BANNED from this thread (see title in your sig: PP rep= not welcome)....don't make us have to get MWB and flexmagnum in here to escort you out...they are the bouncers in here...
Now i feel bad. Ok you can stay...but ONE WORD about the effectiveness of PP products and yer outta here!......to think, all the coupon codes I have given you....
-Matt
Never heard of the company. Subscribed to follow responses.Now i feel bad. Ok you can stay...but ONE WORD about the effectiveness of PP products and yer outta here!
LMAO,there is one kid here who became a rep who fits your description to a T brotha "insecure groupies dying to be part of the IN crowd who defend the company and it's products no matter the cost as if that somehow makes them part-owner or cool or something" <---- you are so spot on..See with me,i say what i want when i want,accept me for what i say and if you dont to ****ing bad =).I dont mean that to sound slike a tough guy,but I dont care no worry about fitting in,cause i can be myself and naturally fit in anywhere,if ppl take the time to understand me.
We all have to understand,that a reps job is a reps job and they have to do what they have too,i fully respect that. I have met some really good reps from purus (airborne) and appnut (drooks and dewey) and SNS (warbird & Mr Cooper )who are helpful and dont shove anything down my throat,never have once,that i respect.
Dude,i just got into supps a few months ago.i was completley anti supps bro.i havent been training as long as most, about 7 years now,but im consistant and did it with just whey,creatine,multi and fish oil,whey ofcourse as well. So i do alot of research before i just go buy products.Im new to this supp thing,but im no fool or chump,so its not easy to force feed me bull****,just wont happen. Not new to bodybuilding either,so Whacked me and you are def on the same level bro.
Word!!!!Word!
Made me blush broFirst of all,i see alot of your posts and you are far from pushy man.To be honest most all reps here arent pushy by any means as compared to many sites,which is why I like this site..Over at ****ty BBdotcom,its a ****ing joke over there.One of the most poor run forums i have ever seen.the reps are ridiculous man.between ergo,Controlled Labs and universal,i never seen anyone push there products so hard,its disgusting!!!!
LMAO,there is one kid here who became a rep who fits your description to a T brotha "insecure groupies dying to be part of the IN crowd who defend the company and it's products no matter the cost as if that somehow makes them part-owner or cool or something" <---- you are so spot on..See with me,i say what i want when i want,accept me for what i say and if you dont to ****ing bad =).I dont mean that to sound slike a tough guy,but I dont care no worry about fitting in,cause i can be myself and naturally fit in anywhere,if ppl take the time to understand me.
We all have to understand,that a reps job is a reps job and they have to do what they have too,i fully respect that. I have met some really good reps from purus (airborne) and appnut (drooks and dewey) and SNS (warbird & Mr Cooper )who are helpful and dont shove anything down my throat,never have once,that i respect.
Dude,i just got into supps a few months ago.i was completley anti supps bro.i havent been training as long as most, about 7 years now,but im consistant and did it with just whey,creatine,multi and fish oil,whey ofcourse as well. So i do alot of research before i just go buy products.Im new to this supp thing,but im no fool or chump,so its not easy to force feed me bull****,just wont happen. Not new to bodybuilding either,so Whacked me and you are def on the same level bro.
Lmfao!Now i feel bad. Ok you can stay...but ONE WORD about the effectiveness of PP products and yer outta here!
i just finished 8 weeks of AndroLean V3 and Androdrive V3 and i'm not a rep for anyone. 6 caps daily of AL and 3 caps AD and 2-3 caps of Alpha t-2. I do not have body fat % numbers nor before and after pics but I am down 18 pounds of total weight (from 230 to 212), I am at or above all of my previous strength PRs and my arms are still 19.5" circumference. My diet was only moderately strict: reduction of carbs during weekdays while keeping protein higher than fat. I am happy with this stack and have just ordered two botles of AndroLean and one bottle of AndroHard for a December-January cycle.
Sides were minimal: a little bit of aggression, but less than my run with AndroMass and AndroDrive at the beginning of the year. I had some headaches but I can't point it at Andro products specifically.
My PCT starting tomorrow will be Erase Pro, TCF-1, Sustain alpha, Anabeta Elite
Not disappointed at all.
If AndroLean works it worth the cost.subbed. Still trying to justify the cost of the whole adro series.
Didn't know bird was an SNS rep?First of all,i see alot of your posts and you are far from pushy man.To be honest most all reps here arent pushy by any means as compared to many sites,which is why I like this site..Over at ****ty BBdotcom,its a ****ing joke over there.One of the most poor run forums i have ever seen.the reps are ridiculous man.between ergo,Controlled Labs and universal,i never seen anyone push there products so hard,its disgusting!!!!
LMAO,there is one kid here who became a rep who fits your description to a T brotha "insecure groupies dying to be part of the IN crowd who defend the company and it's products no matter the cost as if that somehow makes them part-owner or cool or something" <---- you are so spot on..See with me,i say what i want when i want,accept me for what i say and if you dont to ****ing bad =).I dont mean that to sound slike a tough guy,but I dont care no worry about fitting in,cause i can be myself and naturally fit in anywhere,if ppl take the time to understand me.
We all have to understand,that a reps job is a reps job and they have to do what they have too,i fully respect that. I have met some really good reps from purus (airborne) and appnut (drooks and dewey) and SNS (warbird & Mr Cooper )who are helpful and dont shove anything down my throat,never have once,that i respect.
Dude,i just got into supps a few months ago.i was completley anti supps bro.i havent been training as long as most, about 7 years now,but im consistant and did it with just whey,creatine,multi and fish oil,whey ofcourse as well. So i do alot of research before i just go buy products.Im new to this supp thing,but im no fool or chump,so its not easy to force feed me bull****,just wont happen. Not new to bodybuilding either,so Whacked me and you are def on the same level bro.
I think jay thinks we are the same guy lol...people pm me that they accidentally pm'd the other wb thinking he was meDidn't know bird was an SNS rep?
Edit: N/M not the WS6Bird
Yeah the other wb is rarely around....if i knew? i could have used a different name lol. I figure who the f would have this name?!!! i had it back as far as 01....but he had it on this site firstWarbird,i thought you were,lol,idk why!!!!
And warbird,when i do pm you im pming you!!!!!!1 lol
still respect ya =)
Aaron thnx for calling me out,lol..its deeply appreciated =/
If AndroLean works it worth the cost.
AndroMass v2 seemed legit to me.
I like that response.Ill give you a "no bull' breakdown
AM v2 -- This was the product with the most favorable feedback. People really did call and email they gained 10-12-16 lbs from this product
AH v2 -- Was hit or miss due to the pure alpha isomer of androsterone. This version was badass in potentially building some tissue, but made your brain feel foggy and dazed. This made lethargy a huge concern and motivation a real pain. Some succeeded well on it though
AL v2 -- Perhaps over hyped a bit....worked, but was super mild and was not transforming people like some would have liked.
AM v3 -- Similar feedback as V2. Mostly positive, and no lethargy issues like v2.
AH v3 -- A bad mofo...blended with more EPI (beta-isomer) to make your brain feel great and motivate your workouts.
AL v3 -- Vastly improved. Way better propensity to lessen abdominal fat and build some lean tissue from a mild anabolic now in the product (super-11)
AB v3 -- Safe, and works, but the price does not quite equate to the reward from user feedback. If price could be lowered I think people would love this product since its not very androgenic.
-Matt
But im pretty sure it was your profile pic...lol. idk bro,i dont think i ever saw the other wbYeah the other wb is rarely around....if i knew? i could have used a different name lol. I figure who the f would have this name?!!! i had it back as far as 01....but he had it on this site first
there's two of us....you probably converse with me 95% of the time, but maybe a few times with the other wb...and you probably saw his SNS rep tag. But yeah, you've been PMing and posting with me for the most part LOL.But im pretty sure it was your profile pic...lol. idk bro,i dont think i ever saw the other wb
U cant change ya name?
Lol i hope..so,werent u the one that gave me a set pct including Div1,if u remember,lolthere's two of us....you probably converse with me 95% of the time, but maybe a few times with the other wb...and you probably saw his SNS rep tag. But yeah, you've been PMing and posting with me for the most part LOL.
He has had our competing sponsored athletes use it, if that speaks to anything for you.I like that response.
Back to Lean v3 though, what are your thoughts on that? Over hyped as well?
yeah that was me lol. you got the same guy, but I think you just saw the other wb's signature line of SNS rep once or twice and figured it was me.Lol i hope..so,werent u the one that gave me a set pct including Div1,if u remember,lol
You could open up to a whole new market that includes guys like myself...the cheap @ss/ broke @ss motha....Are the costs of the Andro series ever expected to come down a bit? I know some 25% off deals exist, but the barrier to entry for a lot of people has to be the very high cost as I'm sure PP is aware. Didn't know if it was something where we might see costs drop a bit in the future.
Eric is working on this. There are many stages to this product from synthesis to shipping to ester addition to shipping again to testing at every stage, etc.. It takes awhile to try and shave a bit at all of those corners, with zero change in quality and not sacrificing testing standards.Are the costs of the Andro series ever expected to come down a bit? I know some 25% off deals exist, but the barrier to entry for a lot of people has to be the very high cost as I'm sure PP is aware. Didn't know if it was something where we might see costs drop a bit in the future.
No question you are correct. Did you see Iboston's similar response, and then my response to that?Thanks for the candid feedback. It's appreciated
That said, there are some mitigating factors that prevent your solid results from any sort of specific conclusion(s) on ONE particular product that you used to augment your diet in obtaining results.
Your diet alone would yield decent results.
T2 is a welll-liked and very well-documented product on this board and has been for years, so that muddies the waters too with respect to your results and WHAT caused them
Regardless, thanks for the post and congrats on the success
I'd like to see feedback for those above.I have been really looking into this or AH... would like to see feedback specially those with at/below 12%bf---subbed'.
^^^ this.
Can non reps get a translation?^^^ this.
are you where your NOT supposed to be .....again???....Can non reps get a translation?
Could be due to low levels of cortisol from 7/11 oxo. Cortisol transports T3 in to cells. But not 100% positive.I'd like to see feedback for those above.
M. Porter, didn't you say ppl had symptoms of cloudy head, foggy head on & feeling weak & sluggish on the Lean v3?
Thx.Could be due to low levels of cortisol from 7/11 oxo. Cortisol transports T3 in to cells. But not 100% positive.
that would be me.I have been really looking into this or AH... would like to see feedback specially those with at/below 12%bf---subbed'.
I can't give my opinion, but can't blame me for keeping an eye on it, no?are you where your NOT supposed to be .....again???....
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